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Worst rule in golf
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:34 pm
In my opinion -
The Out of Bounds rule is still the worst rule in golf even with the new changes.
I remember years ago on the Peter Kessler show on the Golf Channel Ben Crenshaw said that the Out of Bounds rule is the worst in golf and he made some very valid points.
Take this scenario ,
2 guy playing a match on a Par 5. there is out of bounds right and there is a pond about 250 yards out on the left.
Player A hit his drive OB and had to re-tee. Player B knowing this now aims dead left and drives his ball into the lake knowing that he can take this distance.
They are now both hitting 3 after lost balls, but Player B now has a 250 yard advantage over Player A.
Both lost balls, both take penalty's, just not equitable in my or Ben's opinion.
In case you don't know the new change here it is.
Just the rub ?
The Out of Bounds rule is still the worst rule in golf even with the new changes.
I remember years ago on the Peter Kessler show on the Golf Channel Ben Crenshaw said that the Out of Bounds rule is the worst in golf and he made some very valid points.
Take this scenario ,
2 guy playing a match on a Par 5. there is out of bounds right and there is a pond about 250 yards out on the left.
Player A hit his drive OB and had to re-tee. Player B knowing this now aims dead left and drives his ball into the lake knowing that he can take this distance.
They are now both hitting 3 after lost balls, but Player B now has a 250 yard advantage over Player A.
Both lost balls, both take penalty's, just not equitable in my or Ben's opinion.
In case you don't know the new change here it is.
quote:
Instead of the player returning to the spot of the previous shot in the event of a lost ball or a ball out of bounds, the player can take a drop in the nearest spot of the fairway (within two club-lengths of the edge of the fairway), no nearer the hole than where the ball crossed the OB line, with a two-stroke penalty.
Just the rub ?
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:36 pm to bopper50
Can't take your ball out of a divot even though you can move it from GUR or temporary immovable object.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:44 pm to bopper50
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The Out of Bounds rule is still the worst rule in golf even with the new changes.
Oh you hate OB eh? Have you ever played a course with an internal OB? That’ll piss you off real quick
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 6:56 pm to bopper50
Agree with OB rule.
Similar scenario:
Player A is a skilled golfer. He crushes a drive 310 yards and it trickles 1 yard OB
Player B is a hack. He swings and completely whiffs.
Player A is hitting 3, Player B is hitting 2
They should’ve gone back to distance only like it used to be. It’s essentially a foul ball. Hit again from same place but only laying the swing you took. (Hitting 2 from the tee)
Similar scenario:
Player A is a skilled golfer. He crushes a drive 310 yards and it trickles 1 yard OB
Player B is a hack. He swings and completely whiffs.
Player A is hitting 3, Player B is hitting 2
They should’ve gone back to distance only like it used to be. It’s essentially a foul ball. Hit again from same place but only laying the swing you took. (Hitting 2 from the tee)
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:45 pm to CoachChappy
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Oh you hate OB eh? Have you ever played a course with an internal OB? That’ll piss you off real quick
I believe Falcon Point CC here in Houston has some internal OB stakes.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:46 pm to dpd901
quote:
They should’ve gone back to distance only like it used to be. It’s essentially a foul ball. Hit again from same place but only laying the swing you took. (Hitting 2 from the tee)
I could live with that.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:50 pm to bopper50
quote:
believe Falcon Point CC here in Houston has some internal OB stakes.
my home course has it. That’s my frustration.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 7:53 pm to CoachChappy
quote:
Oh you hate OB eh? Have you ever played a course with an internal OB? That’ll piss you off real quick
LOL, we have two internal OBs. And I've seen both have effects on the top of a flight in a tournament. Hilarious to watch especially with someone who is new to the course.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:04 pm to bopper50
quote:
I believe Falcon Point CC here in Houston has some internal OB stakes.
Nope
Posted on 6/29/20 at 8:16 pm to bigberg2000
We have a 9 hole course that is a rectangle. Two holes on the back 9 turn into longer holes. One goes from Par 3 to 4 and one from Par 4 to Par 5. Both create layup shots. If you miss right you are going into an adjacent fairway and tee box area. It's considered to be in place for safety. I guess its technically some sort of lateral hazard because I believe we play it stroke + drop at entry no closer to the hole. As bad as I miss right I usually don't have a problem on either hole because they are layup irons/3wood anyway.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 9:02 pm to rmc
When Greystone had the environmental hazard. That's bad. Carter had it for a brief time in 2010, I believe. Just wanted to treat the rough as a hazard and didn't want people looking for their balls or hacking it out.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 12:31 am to bopper50
DQ for signing an incorrect scorecard. Why does the player have to keep score (in PGA events at least)? Have an official score every group.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:08 am to bopper50
Spanish Bay, one of the Pebble Beach courses along 17 Mile Drive, has some out of bounds areas due to rare or endangered grasses/ weeds. Adding insult to penalty, you may not retrieve your ball, even if is only an inch beyond the OB stakes and easily within arm’s reach. Doing so may result in immediate banishment without remuneration. What a horrible round I played there...
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:10 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:53 am to bopper50
I really don’t see the inequity in this scenario. Missing right is worse than missing left on that hole. Ever shot in golf has a side that is worse to miss than the other, that’s the game. And particularly in a match play situation, playing a safety shot following your opponent’s bad miss is also a part of the game.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:25 am to bopper50
Ob rule. How to fix. Don't hit it out of bounds. Pussification of America.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:24 am to CoachChappy
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Oh you hate OB eh? Have you ever played a course with an internal OB? That’ll piss you off real quick
Yea that is a SOB.
Playing in an amateur qualifier last year, caught a flyer out the rough with a PW, ball landed on the green but hopped off the back and rolled down a hill right past the cart path. Didn’t think it was THAT bad till I get up to it and they have OB marked past the cart path because there is a putting green 50 ft away... hit a decent shot, just a little too far, now I’m laying 4 from where I just hit my 2nd shot.
To make it even worse one of the guys I was playing with was arguing that it wasn’t OB because the stake was a little left of my ball. According to tournament rules I played two balls, one from my first shot, which I got up and down for par, the other like it went OB, and carded a 7... get to the end and talk to the official, yep it’s OB, here’s your 7 :’(
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:18 am to CoachChappy
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Oh you hate OB eh? Have you ever played a course with an internal OB? That’ll piss you off real quick
8 at Webb use to have OB right (along 2) and left (street side).
I use to play Webb way back. I hated it when I hooked a ball that didn’t reach the street but it was OB because it was beyond the white stakes. I always thought that wasn’t fair.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:46 am to doubleb
My line off the tee on 8 is 17 green. OB right would suck.
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