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New Rule on scorecards
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:11 pm
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:10 pm to bstaceyau19
Finally
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:01 pm to bstaceyau19
Now, can we please take the damn ball out of a fairway divot?
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:12 pm to CoachChappy
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Now, can we please take the damn ball out of a fairway divot?
And make the corporate tents OB.
No more 21 minute multiple line of sight drops.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:30 pm to CoachChappy
While I’d like to take out of divots, it would be too subjective. Some guys (we all know a few) would claim they they’re always in a divot. Might as well play “bump it in the fairway”.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:40 pm to Eye dentist
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Some guys (we all know a few) would claim they they’re always in a divot. Might as well play “bump it in the fairway”.
I hate this argument. The guys who are going to abuse it are already bumping anyway. People will always abuse rules, but the rest of us shouldn’t suffer, because of them.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:30 pm to Eye dentist
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While I’d like to take out of divots, it would be too subjective. Some guys (we all know a few) would claim they they’re always in a divot. Might as well play “bump it in the fairway”.
I care about how this applies to the pros. What you have to deal with when playing with your buddies doesn’t matter
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:32 pm to CoachChappy
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I hate this argument. The guys who are going to abuse it are already bumping anyway. People will always abuse rules, but the rest of us shouldn’t suffer, because of them.
These people are gonna take it out of a divot anyway, so who cares. Not wanting this rule in golf because amateurs aren’t gonna follow it is beyond stupid
Posted on 6/18/24 at 7:51 pm to CoachChappy
I agree with you but It would slow the professional game down even more. If you are nopt playing in a competitive round/tournament just move the damn thing.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:00 pm to CoachChappy
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Now, can we please take the damn ball out of a fairway divot?
No. Golf is a lot like life. You can do everything right and still get shafted. Man up and hit your best shot.
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:55 pm to CoachChappy
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Now, can we please take the damn ball out of a fairway divot?
Too much gray area for pros to bitch. Play it down.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 6:54 am to CoachChappy
Intuitively, I’ve never understood the argument for moving the ball from a divot. That’s the same as moving it out of a bunker or water in my opinion.
Even if you want to argue that “good shots should be rewarded” (assuming we’re talking about fairway divots only), says who? I’ve hit plenty of great shots that end up in bad places. I’ve hit plenty of bad shots that end up in great places.
I’ve also seen the argument for amateurs that we don’t play with caddies filling divots, so there’s disproportionately more of them that we have to avoid than the pros do. But I don’t buy that either - we also don’t play perfect greens like the pros do - surely you aren’t counting missed putts as makes when the greens are a little bumpy?
Even if you want to argue that “good shots should be rewarded” (assuming we’re talking about fairway divots only), says who? I’ve hit plenty of great shots that end up in bad places. I’ve hit plenty of bad shots that end up in great places.
I’ve also seen the argument for amateurs that we don’t play with caddies filling divots, so there’s disproportionately more of them that we have to avoid than the pros do. But I don’t buy that either - we also don’t play perfect greens like the pros do - surely you aren’t counting missed putts as makes when the greens are a little bumpy?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:03 am to NaturalBeam
Also add in that the average amateur “unfairly” benefits from a lucky break on a bad shot (bounce off cart path/tree into the fairway) way more than they catch a bad break with a good shot resting in a fairway divot.
So I would bet the VAST majority of golfers (maybe literally all golfers?) are “ahead” in terms of luck.
Play it as it lies.
So I would bet the VAST majority of golfers (maybe literally all golfers?) are “ahead” in terms of luck.
Play it as it lies.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:16 am to bstaceyau19
I’ve always found it bizarre how responsible the golfers are for officially keeping their own score in today’s PGA. Are there instances in non major tournaments especially with lower ranked golfers where no one official is near them on every hole to keep track?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:41 am to JohnnyKilroy
I would add that I don't advocate for all golfers to play the ball down. It's hard enough and if you aren't playing for competition or money (or if you are, and everyone agrees), and it can make the game a little more enjoyable, then why not.
I'm simply against a carve-out rule for divots. Either play the ball down (everywhere), or don't.
I'm simply against a carve-out rule for divots. Either play the ball down (everywhere), or don't.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:02 am to jlovel7
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Are there instances in non major tournaments especially with lower ranked golfers where no one official is near them on every hole to keep track?
1. The playing partner keeps the other player’s official score.
2. Shot link tracks everything.
So for Korn Ferry and up, it would be almost impossible to shave strokes.
Maybe at some $300 entry fee tournament it could happen, but it still would be hard to flat out report a 66 instead of a 67.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:28 am to makersmark1
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Shot link tracks everything.
I have done shotlink a couple times (04/06 HP/Zurich using transits and palm pilots) and I know for a fact not everything got picked up. 04 rained and I was solo in 10green tower for a couple hours early am. Shot the fairway and green but no backup sheet. The walking scorer would be more accurate as far as strokes go. Imo.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:08 am to makersmark1
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Shot link tracks everything.
The walking scorer would be more accurate as far as strokes go. Imo.
Y’all are putting a lot of trust in 60 year old volunteers
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 9:09 am
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:04 pm to hehateme2285
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Y’all are putting a lot of trust in 60 year old volunteers
The playing partners and caddies would need to be involved.
I don’t think scores are reported wrong purposely in high end golf tournaments.
There are interpretations of situations during play that may be uneven- like the time Tiger took a drop at the Players where he probably should have had to drop almost on the forward tee since his ball was over the hazard quickly.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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So I would bet the VAST majority of golfers (maybe literally all golfers?) are “ahead” in terms of luck.
You've obviously never played with me
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