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re: LIV Golf Tour's Saudi PIF has large stake in "PGA Tour Fan Shop" and Fanatics

Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:29 pm to
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 most exciting part of LIV will be the court battle when all the players want to come back to the PGA tour


I don't know how the PGA tour works this other than a ... Players vote.

But how do you tell Rory Rham Thomas..." yeah we know you turned down. 200 million plus but it's for the best interest to let DJ back"

I don't know that there is an issue for that at this point. Bryson Rickie may be returnable Options .. Dustin will be 40s soon and could be lived with out The other named players make the LIV a senior tour lite
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:32 pm to
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If it expands to 20 events and the stars only want to have to play 8 times why wouldnt they get shots?


Because their contract states they have to play all LIV events. They didn't give these guys that guaranteed cash so they could skip events. The entire premise is to have teams, play 15 times a year, and have a championship at the end, a la F1. The only way they miss is injury.

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Who has said that? I haven’t heard that at all.


It was a requirement they rolled back for this year after Phil's comments in February.

You honestly believe that they're going to give these guys $100 million guaranteed over a 4 year period and allow them to say, "I don't feel like playing this week"?
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:40 pm to
It is ironic they keep screaming independent contractors, then they sign this.

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Because their contract states they have to play all LIV events.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:47 pm to
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ell you actually are very level headed so I will ask you

What is LIVs plan for the development of the future golfer? Pray the PGA stays around so they can leverage everything the PGA has done so well to develop young golf talent into what we see tkday?

Or so they have their own plan? As of now all I see is they have the Asian tour. If that’s their plan that ain’t that great



lol...how in the world could you expect anyone here to accurately answer these questions?

Anything anyone says, even ell, would purely be conjecture.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:50 pm to
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It is ironic they keep screaming independent contractors, then they sign this.

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Because their contract states they have to play all LIV events.


...but does it EXCLUDE them from playing in other events outside of LIV?
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:52 pm to
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It is ironic they keep screaming independent contractors, then they sign this.

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Because their contract states they have to play all LIV events.


They probably would sign a contract with PGA Tour too if the PGA could match offers like this, which they obviously can't. To me that is still the biggest discrepancy I have with all of this. If this was a legitimate company trying to start a tour with the goal of making a profit, I would be all for it. But this isn't what this is.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:52 pm to
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You honestly believe that they're going to give these guys $100 million guaranteed over a 4 year period and allow them to say, "I don't feel like playing this week"?


I don’t know. I’m just asking. The LIV is only 8 this year and 10 events next year.
Do those contracts stipulate if extra events are added these guys HAVE to play? Phil and DJ have both said they only want to play 8 events and the majors.

I’m just asking. I don’t think anyone really knows the extended plan. But to pretend it wouldn’t appeal to younger guys is short sighted.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:54 pm to
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..but does it EXCLUDE them from playing in other events outside of LIV?



Don't know, don't care, nor is it relevant.
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5317 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:54 pm to
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The LIV is only 8 this year and 10 events next year.


Then 14 in '24 and '25. And these guys making the massive cash have signed 4 year deals.

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...but does it EXCLUDE them from playing in other events outside of LIV?


No. That's why they're trying to schedule events up against events like the John Deere. Guys want to play the Majors, Memorial, Riviera for DJ, Bay Hill for Bryson.
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:55 pm to
The only leaked terms are DJS contract is for 4 years

The specific terms are unknown
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 12:59 pm to
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Then 14 in '24 and '25


Yeah and DJ has said outright one of the reasons he did it was to play less golf.

The Tour demands 15 events.

Like I said I don’t know. I’m just asking.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:02 pm to
DJ very likely doesn’t have a clue how many tournaments LIV has in 2024
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Don't know, don't care, nor is it relevant.



lol...it most certainly is relevant, and you continuing to post in this thread says you care.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Don't know, don't care, nor is it relevant.


It's quite literally the most relevant thing in the whole discussion retard
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 1:54 pm to
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Don't know, don't care, nor is it relevant.



lol...it most certainly is relevant, and you continuing to post in this thread says you care.



I get this... But the Saudi league has the benefit of .. Nothing to lose. They are there newcomers trying to get market... They have to do this.
The PGA Tour gains nothing from the LIV
LIV only takes
This post was edited on 6/14/22 at 2:14 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:07 pm to
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lol...it most certainly is relevant


It had zero to do with my comment.

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you continuing to post in this thread says you care.



I don't care about your comment as it had nothing to do with mine.
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
93643 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:11 pm to
Lord...you are dense.
Posted by TDTOM
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25893 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:19 pm to
Not really.
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
7092 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 2:23 pm to
Rory is too dumb to understand all that. Haha
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 6/14/22 at 3:50 pm to
Rory’s comments about the easy way out are out of line imo when it comes to Phil.

Phil’s finished in the top 10 more times than Rory has even made a cut.

Dude grinded it for years.

Phil has competed in over three times as many PGA tournaments as Rory. Phil has averaged almost 22 tournaments a year for 30 years. Rory’s avg about 18.

Rory has made 2/3 of the money Phil made in 30 years in tour in 12 years.

A large part of that rise in purses and overall golf awareness was Phil.

Calling out Phil for taking a golden parachute is chicken shite.

Bryson or PReed. Maybe yeah. But not Phil.
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