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re: Golf has a numbers problem

Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:47 am to
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4277 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:47 am to
Marshals need to enforce pace of play or club needs to increase amount of time between tee times
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32673 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 7:32 am to
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If you are a single or twosome behind a foursome at a public course on the weekend, and they are playing at or under a 4 hour pace, you should have zero expectation to be let though. Zero.


This brings up another question. Which group is worse?

- a foursome who all suck, take mulligans every hole, play extremely slow, and never let anyone play through because they don’t know etiquette

- A foursome of old men who play really slow and refuse let anyone through out of some sort of sense pride or something.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12829 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:03 am to
The old men are definitely worse. The guys that don't know better can be fixed. The old men are just being rude.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32673 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:11 am to
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The old men are definitely worse.

I tend to agree.
The two worst groups on the golf course are the old guys who won’t let anyone through.

The opposite group is just as bad, the old guys who play really early in the morning who think they own the course, they warm up on the part of the driving range that is closed drive their carts onto the green and on the edge of bunkers, and seem to think golf is a race to be won. Everyone likes fast pace of play but these guys act like chipping and putting aren’t a part of the game, once the ball is within 50ft of the hole it’s time to scoop it and move on, don’t you dare try and read that 20ft birdie putt or they’ll start hitting into you.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17053 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:44 am to
Not sure how the GPS works as far as keeping pace, but most carts tell you if you are ahead or behind. Seems the pro shop could tell who is holding the course up. Got a group that plays every Wednesday somewhere. We were playing Kosati and all the groups in our bunch were foursomes. My group was the last to tee off. We were going along, keeping pace with the group ahead of us when a twosome catches us. I hate to wait but I really hate to hold up people behind. So, we let em through. Two holes later, same thing. We go from being ahead on our round to behind by a few minutes. A few holes later the marshal comes by and tells us to quicken our pace. We obliged, but we aint catching the twosomes ahead of us. Get to number 8, and here comes the marshal again but this time a little more upset about not keeping up with the group ahead. We tell the a-hole marshal that if the proshop wouldn't have sent out two twosomes behind us, this wouldn't have happened. We asked the marshal who his boss was because he was gonna get an earful from us about the marshall and the bullshite twosomes.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12829 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:52 am to
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We were going along, keeping pace with the group ahead of us when a twosome catches us.


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We obliged, but we aint catching the twosomes ahead of us.


Something doesn't add up here. If you are keeping pace with the foursome ahead of you, there's no reason to let the twosome through. If you did let them through, you still shouldn't be too far behind them because they have another foursome ahead of you. This is essentially the same exact hypothetical I raised earlier in this thread. You thought you were being nice, but the twosomes probably aren't gaining much ground after playing through, and now your round is messed up.

This is the tough spot with a marshal. This thread is calling for more attentive marshalls, but then you end up with assholes like you mentioned. I really think it's more on the starter and clubhouse. Preventing the problem before it starts is a better solution than trying to fix it with marshals.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38637 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:15 am to
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The opposite group is just as bad, the old guys who play really early in the morning who think they own the course, they warm up on the part of the driving range that is closed drive their carts onto the green and on the edge of bunkers, and seem to think golf is a race to be won. Everyone likes fast pace of play but these guys act like chipping and putting aren’t a part of the game, once the ball is within 50ft of the hole it’s time to scoop it and move on, don’t you dare try and read that 20ft birdie putt or they’ll start hitting into you.


My FIL is definitely not in this group, but it is a bit humorous that he's an avid golfer that probably spends 20-30 hours a week playing or practicing, but when I play with him he's putting MAYBE 18 times in a round.

I'll have a 6 footer for par and he'll try to convince me to just pick up
Posted by DestrehanTiger
Houston, TX by way of Louisiana
Member since Nov 2005
12829 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:25 am to
Yeah, it's never made much sense to me either. I guess it's easier to scoop up a ball with the back of your putter rather than bending over just in case you make it. Still, it seems these retirees have no place else to be. Why rush getting off the course?
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38473 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:25 am to
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You wouldn’t do shite about it.


No I actually wouldn't get in a fight on the golf course. But by all means, continue to be trashy.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
32673 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:28 am to
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Still, it seems these retirees have no place else to be. Why rush getting off the course?

I always assume they’re trying to finish their round and get home before their wives wake up at 9am
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4816 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:39 am to
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Still, it seems these retirees have no place else to be. Why rush getting off the course?


That 11am naptime.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37008 posts
Posted on 5/24/25 at 11:11 pm to
Didn’t see this complaint mentioned so I’ll add it: playing from the tips. I’ve seen more young bucks playing from the tips that have no business playing them than I should’ve. I don’t know if it’s machismo or they’re trying to impress the cart girl, but players need to club themselves and play the tees suitable for their game. If you can’t drive it that far, play the whites or golds. This is applicable to oldsters too. I’ve seen a few fossils out there who just couldn’t seem to accept that their days as bombers were long over. Move up gramps!

To clarify, I don’t mean old
Men playing from the tips. That’s the kids. I mean old men playing whites when they should be on golds. Basically, if you tee off and barely pass the ladies tees, move the hell up.
This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 11:36 pm
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Addison, TX
Member since Sep 2017
940 posts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 7:07 am to
I understand all the frustration, but I’m happy seeing golf become so popular. Unfortunately, I don’t have any suggestions for fixing pace of play that haven’t already been discussed.
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