re: Xbox 720 not the only next gen console to lock out used games...PS4

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so, your suggestion is to put out "the same console again" but with wacky external devices to save company money?

in hope that the other companies blow their load on developing and trying to sell the next gen consoles.



jesus christ i hope sony and microsoft don't take that stance. we'll all be fricked.

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No, what I'd like is for MS/Sony to think, and then instead of spending billions of dollars building machines that do the same things with a higher number of polygons per second, actually take the time and effort and put it in to developing better, more interesting and perhaps even *gasp* original games.

Maybe Nintendo could have a try at that too.



ETA: But this is all a massive derail and since I didn't directly state how this all relates to the subject in hand, I'll do so now: Don't think these companies won't bite off the hand that feeds them, they're already losing money hand over fist. MS and Sony not only don't give a shite about the likes of gamestop, they actually detest all sellers of second hand games and want the practice to stop. Sony were considering doing this for PS3.

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actually take the time and effort and put it in to developing better

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while this thought on the surface or in theory sounds good.

"actually take the time and effort and put it in to developing better"


creating/developing/testing hardware and software is a very expensive process. you are paying the best video game designers in the world to do this for years at a time do this....you'll be running up quite a bill.


not exactly like meeting your buddies in the school library over a pizza and to brainstorm up your next economics project.

Remember the days you could grab a couple of your games and haul them over to a friend's house for an all night showdown?

Good times.



Granted we haven't seen that since the last generation, but still. All this restriction is just going to kill the industry. Contraction is near.



Also, chalk this up to "screwing over the paying customer for a) profits or B) control or c)both."

That stuff really ticks me off.

I have been reading about it and this has to piss off the console player (haven't read all of the thread.) It does make me glad I am a PC gamer and kudos to Steam for doing what they do!

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honest question, is there much of a secondary market for PC games?

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There is almost ZERO secondary market.

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will be interesting to see if they ever do come out with their version of a console

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They have already debunked that

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- if you have a shitty internet connection, stop being poor, upgrade your connection.

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I would gladly triple what I pay for a decent connection. Yet it isn't available because of where I live.

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But you have a point, and further more, there is something in human nature that always wants to be bigger, faster, better etc. I don't know where gameplay fits into that.

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If Nintendo released the Wii U instead of the Wii 6 years ago, Microsoft gaming might not exist anymore.