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What is wrong with Xbox?

Posted on 1/18/23 at 5:48 pm
Posted by FlappingPierre
St. George
Member since Nov 2013
4400 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 5:48 pm
They haven’t come out with any good AAA for years and years. No good story’s. Honestly just complete shite. Phil Spencer needs to be fired correct?
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 6:30 pm to
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What is wrong with Xbox?


They value their subscription plan that includes tons of shitty, borderline Chinese mobile app games, their shitty console exclusives, and all the triple A games you rather play on a PC.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27048 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 7:27 pm to
I'm pretty neutral on the console wars thing, but Microsoft's acquisition of Zenimax and the possible acquisition of Activision/Blizzard are BFDs, and I don't think they've been given enough time to show the true impact.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9304 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 8:56 pm to
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What is wrong with Xbox?



20 years in their system, and I've had a PS5 in my cart for a few days now
Posted by bricksandstones
Member since Nov 2015
1578 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 9:07 pm to
I’ve been holding off on a next gen console purchase. Been an Xbox guy since 2005. PS5 will be my next console purchase as the titles are way more enticing.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66364 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 10:15 pm to
they're gonna get quite a few titles thanks to the acquisitions, but yes, it's truly embarrassing what they've managed to put out for the last 10 years. especially after just completely dominating for the 360 era
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 1:13 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35555 posts
Posted on 1/18/23 at 11:50 pm to
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They value their subscription plan that includes tons of shitty, borderline Chinese mobile app games, their shitty console exclusives, and all the triple A games you rather play on a PC.



BUT IT'S A GOOD DEAL!!!!!
Posted by Afrojedi
Member since Jul 2017
473 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:48 am to
I dropped Xbox during the Xbox One/PS4 wars. It seems they are more interested in making a home entertainment console than a video game console. Thats cool and all but not what im looking for when im purchasing something specifically to play video games.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17710 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:06 am to
I have both Series X and PS5, and in my opinion the Series X is a better console. The same games look and play better on Xbox. But yeah, zero exclusives outside of Halo.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66364 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:29 am to
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The same games look and play better on Xbox.


yeah? which games look and play better? because I watch every Digital Foundry comparison video and they're usually completely identical when it comes to average frames and resolution In fact, I've seen the PS5 win more than not
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
13955 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:36 am to
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zero exclusives outside of Halo.


And Infinite is really good at its core but they have fricked up the decisions at every turn.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
26863 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:33 am to
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They haven’t come out with any good AAA for years and years. No good story’s. Honestly just complete shite. Phil Spencer needs to be fired correct?



Throughout all of their studio acquisitions, hasn't it been their stance to release across all platforms?
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7853 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:57 am to
Series X is the more powerful console. And when it comes to visuals you are wrong. Not much of a difference but the Series X looks a little better than PS5.

Sorry but the PS5 is far from perfect like most of y’all are trying to make it out to be lol
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7231 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:54 pm to
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And when it comes to visuals you are wrong. Not much of a difference but the Series X looks a little better than PS5.


I probably watch the same DF content as Carson and in their analysis it really is back and forth between the two as far as frame rate and resolution depending on the title. My kids and I are on Xbox and everyone is happy with the content drops on GamePass...so is my wallet. Ill get a PS5 when they refresh and or price drop.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66364 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 1:01 pm to
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Series X is the more powerful console.


No question, it definitely has a more powerful GPU

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And when it comes to visuals you are wrong. Not much of a difference but the Series X looks a little better than PS5.


No I'm not. Despite the more powerful GPU, there are almost no substantive differences between the XSX and PS5 in terms of performance. The devs target identical benchmarks for the 2 consoles.

You certainly can't tell with a naked eye (I have both and certainly can't), so you have to look to DF comparison videos for each game to really see the metrics. Spoiler alert - they're usually within 1% of each other when it comes to average frames and dynamic resolution levels. The PS5 usually edges out in Favor Performance modes, while the Xbox typically does better in Favor Resolution modes.

I watch almost all the comparison videos they put out and the PS5 wins more than the XSX does. Go play on Digital Foundry's youtube page if you don't believe me. Or just read the XSX subreddit comments on the DF posts, they're always crying about the XSX having stronger hardware but it not equating to anything meaningful

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Sorry but the PS5 is far from perfect like most of y’all are trying to make it out to be lol


Nobody's arguing that. It has a horrible physical design, they went backwards on so many UI and QOL features from the PS4, the controller's not as comfortable as Xbox's, etc etc
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2576 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:45 pm to
Phil has done an amazing job in many respects. But he has ultimately dropped the ball in what is his most important responsibility as head of Xbox. He has failed to put in place proper leadership that can manage each game studio to develop high quality games in a decently timely manner.

They are failing completely in project management. Xbox is giving each of the studios plenty of money resources, and has given them industry standard time ( or more) and they consistently deliver below grade quality often times at a severe delay.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22836 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 9:13 pm to
I’m a sucker for square enix and FF games even when they’re shite so I’m always going to be on PS since SE hates Xbox with a fiery vengeance for some reason. But yeah, from what I’ve seen at friends house and experienced the new xbox might ever so very slightly be a better console than my ps5. It’s absolutely not any where close enough to offset their completely embarrassing catalogue of exclusives though compared to Sony.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9656 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:04 pm to
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20 years in their system, and I've had a PS5 in my cart for a few days now


I've bought both during the PS3/PS4 era. And have flirted with the PS5 digital edition. But when I look at the exclusives for PS5, frankly they don't appeal to me enough to double up.

Hoping these acquisitions pay off...especially Bethesda. I just like the Xbox feel/ecosystem.

Amazing that they pissed away a dominant lead (in the US at least) after the 360.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26917 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:15 pm to
At this point, the Xbox exists to be an inexpensive plug and play gaming PC replacement. That's all. We'll see if that changes in the future.
Posted by Richard Dangler
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2015
718 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 1:56 am to
I felt like xbox was on the rise with the original console being pc-like during its gen and then the 360 just being the better option during its, but going into the eigth gen Microsoft shite the bed. The horrible reveal of xbone followed by the PR nightmare that that one guy (sweet billy) was involved in really screwed things up for them going into that gen after they had made so much ground with the 360.

Add in Sony getting their heads out of their asses and making something that devs could easily work with and was not fricktarded (ps3 RAM was not shared between gpu and cpu like 360 did), and the writing was pretty much on the wall. I don't subscribe to any side in the "console wars" because I'm a PC gamer and enjoy exclusives for each system, but Microsoft only got the sales they have from the current gen because of everyone staying home during covid and the silicon shortage. When people could not get an ampere or RDNA gpu, or a ps5, they got the next thing after.

However I do expect their numbers to start jumping in the near future. With the Bethesda acquisition, previous Obsidian acquisition, and then the more than likely Activision acquisition, people will be forced into the xbox or PC to play a lot of exclusives.
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