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re: Official League of Legends Thread
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:31 pm to Greace
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:31 pm to Greace
quote:Pro mechanics =/= Solo Q mechanics. ... meta, etc.
Go ahead and tell me how many ashes you have seen this season.
When is ashe a good choice? When is she bad?
Should it be based mainly on lane opponent or are there team comp (mine & theirs) where Ashe makes alot of sense?
I'd appreciate your perspective on the champs.
A decently played Ashe is > a piss poor Vayne.
When people play champs that are "currently" in fad... they still have to know how to play them.
I bought and play ashe b/c her tool kit isn't as hard to learn. So before I advance to the hardest skill cap ADC (e.g. Vayne), I'd like to learn the lane. Similar with Sivir, helped me work on placement b/c her skills can take out a bunch of creeps at once (i.e. I don't have to be perfect at last hitting and can focus on harass).
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:35 pm to dcrews
quote:To be fair, we've been at this slightly longer than you.
These guys are vastly underrating Ashe though. I'm not going to sit here and say she is God tier, but to say she sucks and is useless is just plain false.
The only time Ashe is even slightly viable is in ranked 5's when you can coordinate ashe ults with the rest of the team as a teamfight initiate. In soloq, she's as close to useless as you can get. There's next to zero outplay potential, no escapes, her damage is bad early, and she eats mana. She's just not a good champion. Not to mention it takes a LOT of gold to get her going in the damage department.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:40 pm to Mahootney
Im saying I only play ADC and I havent seen a single Ashe this season. Shes just not very good at the moment. Especially in Solo Q. If you want a good cheap Adc pick Tristana. Her kit is well enough that she will always be a good pick. You can pretty much lane vs anything and if you snowball you will hard carry.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:41 pm to Greace
I agree with Tristana. A good Tristana can single handedly win a game. Once you hit late game and she gets that massive range, she's insane. Resets in general are very good for soloQ. Ex: Kha, Kat, Trist, Yi, etc.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 4:58 pm to Drewbie
And if you dont have her, Trist is free to get.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:05 pm to Jackie Chan
Ashe is shite. Ashe Annie is viable but beyond that ashe gets owned by most lanes.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:14 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
Dammit, bought Ashe thinking she was good way back when. Is there any role that she's good?
Can she support and be a poke/stun/utility support?
Can she counter an annie in lane?
Can she support and be a poke/stun/utility support?
Can she counter an annie in lane?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:17 pm to Mahootney
Shes just not very good anywhere. Atleast you only wasted 450 Ip and not 6300 on somebody useless like Quinn.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:28 pm to Greace
I've had a lot of success with Mundo of late, I like playing Siv. and Annie is quite fun to play.
My random LoL though of the day.
Is Yi worth a crap outside if jungling?
My random LoL though of the day.
Is Yi worth a crap outside if jungling?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:31 pm to HamCandy
I dont think Yi is worth a crap anywhere. He snowballs hard and hypercarrys low elo. But once people understand how to beat him he does nothing.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 5:35 pm to HamCandy
quote:Not really. It doesn't take much at all to get him going. He can very easily hyper carry if you're playing with people who don't know how to use CC, but skilled players will shut a Yi down.
Is Yi worth a crap outside if jungling?
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:00 pm to Drewbie
quote:
To be fair, we've been at this slightly longer than you.
Well then I guess I couldn't possibly have any good insight or opinions about it since you've been playing longer....
I'm certainly no expert (average on my best day), but 90% of my games have been spent bot lane, so I'm not totally oblivious to what goes on down there.
Ashe can be good if you play her right. She isn't the best of best, but if you know how to play her, she can be extremely useful. I'm not saying she is going to out 1v1 someone straight up, but to say she is useless and the worst champ is complete and utter nonsense.
quote:
Im saying I only play ADC and I havent seen a single Ashe this season. Shes just not very good at the moment.
If any of the major pro players started using her, all the LOL sheople would be playing ashe every single game and talking about great she is.
Again, there are better options out there, but ashe isn't garbage.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:02 pm to dcrews
Okay which marksman is Ashe better than? and why would you bring a Ashe on your team?
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:03 pm to dcrews
quote:It's not. She's very easily the worst ADC available right now. It's not that she's bad, it's that other adc's offer the exact same thing she does in a better form. Varus has a utility ult that spreads to multiple people + an AoE slow that stays on the ground + more poke, Jinx has the global execute that deals WAY more damage + a stun that isn't an ult + better wave clear + more damage + an attack speed buff, Ez has the global ult + better kiting + an escape + an attack speed buff. Twitch has an escape, a slow, a speed buff, an attack speed buff, and an execute + insane AoE range ult. Ashe is just outclassed in every way.
but to say she is useless and the worst champ is complete and utter nonsense.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:21 pm to Greace
quote:
Okay which marksman is Ashe better than? and why would you bring a Ashe on your team?
I would put ashe ahead of quinn, Urgot, adc kennen, Twisted Fate (troll adc), and maybe miss fortune. Ashe isn't completely useless as she does bring good things to the table with great opportunities to engage or pick people off with her ult. She also has decent kiting if she can properly fight from the back line.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:27 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Okay im gonna ignore the adcs you listed because thats just not even worth it. Sivir brings better team fighting to the table. Pointblank ashe arrow is laughable.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:37 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
quote:
quinn, Urgot
I'd give ashe the edge but Urgot is kinda underrated.
quote:
kennen, Twisted Fate
Not ADC's.
quote:
miss fortune
MF is better IMO
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:43 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
Quinn would destroy an Ashe. Quinn would win that lane so hard early, Ashe would never come back.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:52 pm to Drewbie
quote:
Quinn would destroy an Ashe. Quinn would win that lane so hard early, Ashe would never come back.
Ashe is a pretty safe laner, and has way more range than quinn.
Posted on 1/30/14 at 6:54 pm to LSUSaintsHornets
Quinns not terrible. Shes highly underrated. Skill would most likely determine the matchup
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