re: Has there ever been a fall from grace than CDPR

I play on the PC, and think Cyberpunk is pretty great.

Had no problems, but the occasional graphics glitch.

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I still think Fallout 76 did more damage to Bethesda than Cyberpunk will end up harming CDPR. I have zero interest in their next game. I fully expect them to frick up Elder Scrolls even with Microsoft now in control.

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I think this about where I'm at. Obviously, they could hit a homerun with the next TES installment. I didn't pay any attention to the company before Oblivion. I was aware of the Wayne Gretzky hockey (back in the day), but I didn't play it or any of their Terminator games.

But, Oblivion and Skyrim? I was all in for those (although I was a little late to Oblivion).

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I still think Bethesda had a bigger fall because 76 was total crap across all platforms coupled with micro-transactions. Oh and don't forget that even after the disastrous release, they wanted another $100 per year to get some perks that made the game slightly more playable. lol.

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1. Mico-transactions are a part of games. No one forces anyone to buy them and if someone wants to it only allows Bethesda to have more income to keep putting content in the game. If people don't like micro transactions don't buy them. Bethesda does this in ESO as well. 98% are cosmetic items only and the other is extra storage for crafting materials. No one needs any of it to play the game.

2. The $100 per year you reference I assume is directed towards the Fallout 1st membership. Again you only get a scrap box for crafting materials and mobile tent. Thats not making the game any more playable. You also get atoms for micro transactions that is equal to the value of the cost. Again if you don't want it just don't get it. If people are using micro transactions it only makes the game better for everyone. Get over it.

Excuse me sir, but it's been my observation that you might have a few opinions on the quality of the game that is Fallout 76.

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And this was supposed to be a PVP game

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Wtf does this have to do with anything? This game has pvp, its just the player base chooses not to use it. How is that Bethesdas fault?

How does extra storage make you more viable in PVP? This is a paper tiger argument.

THIS IS AN ONLINE MMO THAT DOESNT HAVE A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION. ITS FREE TO PLAY AFTER THE INTIAL COST WHICH YOU CAN FIND FAIRLY CHEAP.

MMORPGs normally require a monthly subscription to maintain the cost of upkeep, adding content etc. This can be offset by having other revenue streams like monthly memberships with perks and micro transactions.

This way no one is required to pay subscription fees and people who want to use micro transactions can.

How is this worse than requiring everyone to pay a monthly fee?


Show me were you got pwned by someone with extra storage space. I bet you still cry about it, wait your doing it right now.

You seem like you have a lack of self confidence and like to hate on anyone that gets something you don't because they chose to pay for it.

Get over yourself.

It's a mediocre game. I downloaded that, Cup Head, and Deus Ex all around the same time, and I've probably put more hours into Deus Ex Human Revolution than Cyberpunk.

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Deus Ex Human Revolution

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so goddamn good

You wrong here bro, sorry.

A ton of that is fixed.

Move on, brother.

The game is incredible now. Lots of content with bug fixes, daily goals, and QoL improvements.

You are simply speaking towards the first months after launch.

On my PC, which I don't have entry level components, had issues to the point that something got corrupted and every other game I played had input lag. Reset my PC to the point before I installed Cyberpunk and everything was normal again.