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re: Early impressions of DA: The Veilguard is that Bioware nailed it

Posted on 10/28/24 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 4:47 pm to
SkillUp's review was pretty scathing, he showed a lot of stuff that made it look terrible. An entirely surface level experience with 0 depth
Posted by s0tiger
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:35 pm to
Unfortunately this is a wait for EA Play on gamepass unless word of mouth is amazing. Not expecting that.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 8:48 pm to
Generally I like skill up, so I just watched the first half

--Andromeda face animations
--voice acting is stilted and emotionless
--No internal party conflicts ever
--No real choices made until the end of the game
--No manner to be a renegade type character
--dialogue choices are: Nice, Nice but funny, Nice but slightly stern
--dialogue is always 100% inoffensive, said every convo seems like it takes place in front of HR.
--No dark moments. . . .at all
--romance options are completely inconsequential
--Zero quest variety
--Says the zones feel more like Overwatch levels, than exploration zones
--Unable to convey ideas and concepts in dialogue without explicitly stating them
--Generic cartoonishly evil villains upstage Solas
--Combat is easy and not much enemy variety.


Jesus. . .I'm pretty depressed now. I hope there are enough shills to buy this to get us a Mass Effect game

frick
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 8:49 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 10:06 pm to
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Jesus. . .I'm pretty depressed now. I hope there are enough shills to buy this to get us a Mass Effect game frick

Pretty much me. DA isn’t important to me; ME is. Hopefully this doesn’t kill that project.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 12:05 am to
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said every convo seems like it takes place in front of HR.


such a brutal insult
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:28 am to
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Jesus. . .I'm pretty depressed now. I hope there are enough shills to buy this to get us a Mass Effect game

Why would you want them to ruin Mass Effect too?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 7:35 am to
I mean, sanitized dualogue is more natural in the context of a paramilitary organization.

But they would probably put the same trans activist pos in charge of THAT, too

I am getting from the review that this game is basically Dragon Age: Andromeda
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 7:37 am
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:00 am to
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Why would you want them to ruin Mass Effect too?



They already have
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 8:44 am to
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They already have

Andromeda didn't ruin ME. It's not good, but once they patched it up, it's not horrible. The question will be weather they continue going down that (wrong) path with the next ME game, or whether they move back towards the original trilogy.

Veilguard is certainly an alarm, but ME is currently so early in development that there's plenty of time to course correct, if they want to.
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 9:35 am to
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I am getting from the review that this game is basically Dragon Age: Andromeda


I don't know what Veilguard is yet, but Inquisition was basically Dragon Age Andromeda albeit a much more polished version.
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 9:35 am to
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Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 10:22 am to
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I don't know what Veilguard is yet, but Inquisition was basically Dragon Age Andromeda albeit a much more polished version.

This is what’s been catching me a bit off guard lately. DA:I was thrashed when it came out. DA:V may very well be worse, but the gap between DA:I and DA:V could still be smaller than the gap between DA:O and DA:2 or DA:2 and DA:I. Or it could be bigger. Jury is still out. But it surprises me that people are pretending as though DA:2 and DA:I weren’t considered massive disappointments after DA:O.
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 10:42 am to
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Andromeda didn't ruin ME. It's not good, but once they patched it up, it's not horrible.


As a different game, perhaps. As a ME game, I did not like it at all.
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:32 am to
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As a different game, perhaps. As a ME game, I did not like it at all.

I think I’m up to three or four near-100% trilogy playthroughs at this point, so believe me, I hear you. Andromeda got a ton wrong, and I hope that the series doesn’t continue down that path. But in trying to stay objective, I acknowledge that it could have been a lot worse.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:35 am to
You’re right the ending of ME3 ruined it first
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:37 am to
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You’re right the ending of ME3 ruined it first

Also disagree, but I’ve had that conversation on here enough times for me to be disinclined to have it again on an utterly unrelated thread
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:42 am to
just yanking your chain. I finally played the legendary edition and the QOL improvements were very nice and I had totally forgotten Counselor Troi played Liara’s mom
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 11:49 am to
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just yanking your chain. I finally played the legendary edition and the QOL improvements were very nice and I had totally forgotten Counselor Troi played Liara’s mom

You bastard

Yeah, they did a great job with LE, though I wish they had given more attention to 2 and 3. If you’ve never done a midden playthrough, I would highly suggest it. There’s some really great content out there that smoothes out some of the bigger issues I have with the later games.
Posted by Draco Malfoy
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 12:14 pm to
Should I play this or FF7 Rebirth for the first time on my PS5 Pro next Thursday?
Posted by JetsetNuggs
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Posted on 10/29/24 at 12:53 pm to
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You’re right the ending of ME3 ruined it first



To this day, I'm proud of the gaming community for forcing them to change that.

Bioware: This is how the trilogy ends

Gamers: frickin' no it's not dude

Bioware: You right, our bad
This post was edited on 10/29/24 at 12:55 pm
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