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re: You've that been to Italy
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:42 am to Dandy Lion
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:42 am to Dandy Lion
FRESH.
Regional.
If you are eating the regional cuisine which is very very different in each area of Italy, you are then generally eating fresh ingredients, perfected over long periods of time and perfect in its often simplicity.
Regional.
If you are eating the regional cuisine which is very very different in each area of Italy, you are then generally eating fresh ingredients, perfected over long periods of time and perfect in its often simplicity.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:49 am to Dandy Lion
When you are sitting on the Amalfi Coast, eating a pasta dish with clams, mussels, etc.., it is truly a magical moment. Excellent food and impeccable views really make the situation special.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:50 am to TheWiz
Ditto sitting in Cinque Terre with white wine, anchovies and pesto.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:49 am to Fun Bunch
Good, fresh simple food, cooked in Mom and Pop places. Pasta dishes you only thought you had eaten over here, cooked like Momma did and not to some corporate recipe. A single dish, cooked 30 different ways, all of them slightly different and all of them good. Walking down a pretty safe street and deciding "let's try that hole in the wall, and being very surprised at how good it is and that there is also one or more in the next village, just as good or better. So many different pasta dishes, and no real need to ask anyone "where the best place in town is?"
Of course, I was with someone I loved, moving at our schedule, with no real reason to do anything, except looking at a road sign and deciding whether we wanted to stop in the next village or town.
Wish I had a couple of months to devote to the place, with no worries about catching some virus. If so, We'd go back tomorrow.
Of course, I was with someone I loved, moving at our schedule, with no real reason to do anything, except looking at a road sign and deciding whether we wanted to stop in the next village or town.
Wish I had a couple of months to devote to the place, with no worries about catching some virus. If so, We'd go back tomorrow.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:12 pm to Dandy Lion
RE: true Sardinian..
—sheep’s milk cheeses
—pane carasau, a very thin, dry, unleavened flatbread
—seafood, including eels, clams, tuna...
—roasted meats, esp lamb or baby goat
—sheep’s milk cheeses
—pane carasau, a very thin, dry, unleavened flatbread
—seafood, including eels, clams, tuna...
—roasted meats, esp lamb or baby goat
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:39 pm to Dandy Lion
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I've only been to the north, which is very different. Very.
Personally I'm much more a fan of northern Italian food. It's more rustic, it doesn't feature the tomato as much if at all and it's fantastic.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:01 pm to Dandy Lion
The flavor profiles with fresh ingredients are simply sublime. Rich tomatoes, the best cheeses, flavorful meats and sausages, fresh vegetables, roasted garlic, and handmade pasta all washed down in sublime wine what the hell is there to NOT like?
Their cuisine is nothing like the South, and is miles better than most of what passes for Italian-American cuisine here, especially the pizza. Paper Thin soft crust with slightly crispy edges with a strong sauce and seriously great cheese? I’m there
Their cuisine is nothing like the South, and is miles better than most of what passes for Italian-American cuisine here, especially the pizza. Paper Thin soft crust with slightly crispy edges with a strong sauce and seriously great cheese? I’m there
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:04 pm to madamsquirrel
There was a short-lived gelato joint on Chimes street in BR called Bachio di Roma. The guy who ran it was from Rome and had worked at one of the top Gelato spots that I had been blown away by when I visited. When I tried his stuff here, it was other-worldly good. No ice cream compares. One tiny bite of his chocolate gelato filled my hole mouth with flavor. It’s a shame he couldn’t make enough money on chimes street to keep going. I wonder where that dude is now.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:42 pm to kingbob
Chez Black in Positano for the win.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:37 pm to Dandy Lion
I went to Rome once and while there asked the guy running the pensione for a restaurant recommendation. He made a call and sent us to a nearby restaurant. They were from Sardinia and they spoke about as much English as we did Italian. The guy at the pensione, an American GI who married an Italian girl, knew this and told them to "take care of us."
There must have been at least eight courses, mostly small plates featuring different kinds of seafood in different sauces. There was fish and squid, and octopus, and scallops, and crab, and no telling what else. There was a lot of garlic and butter, not so much tomatoey stuff, with various pastas and cheeses too. And wine, lots of wine, not to mention wonderful freshly baked bread. We were there nearly three hours and took two bottles of the wine with us.
This was in the 80s, when they still had the lira and the dollar was strong. It came out to about 70ty million lira, or roughly $17 a piece. Probably the best meal I've ever had in a restaurant.
There must have been at least eight courses, mostly small plates featuring different kinds of seafood in different sauces. There was fish and squid, and octopus, and scallops, and crab, and no telling what else. There was a lot of garlic and butter, not so much tomatoey stuff, with various pastas and cheeses too. And wine, lots of wine, not to mention wonderful freshly baked bread. We were there nearly three hours and took two bottles of the wine with us.
This was in the 80s, when they still had the lira and the dollar was strong. It came out to about 70ty million lira, or roughly $17 a piece. Probably the best meal I've ever had in a restaurant.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:39 pm to Dandy Lion
The standard is high because the people know and demand good food and won't settle for mediocrity. The cooking can be simple and rustic, but the ingredients are top notch. They cook with a lot of fresh herbs and olive oil. Their olive oil is second to none. I have a source in Tuscany that ships me some on occasion. It is expensive but a big can lasts me a year and it is the best. I don't know whether it is the soil or the climate, but the fruits and vegetables are a lot more flavorful than 90% of the ones we get at home. Same with the steaks in Florence. I don't know why we don't have chiana (sp?)beef here. The best pizza I have ever had was on the Amalfi Coast near where pizza was invented. Domino's and Pizza Hut would be laughed at. The cheese is fantastic because they are not encumbered by pasteurization laws. Diners in Italy get the best because they expect demand it. Ditto for the wine.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:58 pm to TheWiz
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When you are sitting on the Amalfi Coast, eating a pasta dish with clams, mussels, etc.., it is truly a magical moment. Excellent food and impeccable views really make the situation special.
The wife and I had lunch sitting alongside the canal in Venice. I ordered seafood spaghetti with clams, mussels, scallops, calimari, etc. Modestly speaking, it was a better than average lunch.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:21 pm to Saint Alfonzo
It has nothing to do with cuisines. Any cuisine when done with quality ingredients and a good chef is worth it. It doesn’t have to be Italian, French, indian, mexican or Cajun.
The foreign location might just add that extra sense of romance to make you feel better.
There is no bad cuisine. There are only bad ingredients and terrible chef..
The foreign location might just add that extra sense of romance to make you feel better.
There is no bad cuisine. There are only bad ingredients and terrible chef..
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:52 am to geauxpurple
I'll add that once you get away from the touristy areas and visit a place like the small towns in Tuscany the villages only have a restaurant or two. Those are the gems because if the food wasn't up to par the locals wouldn't eat at them.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 7:46 pm to VABuckeye
Yeah. Those are some of my favorites too. Twice we have stayed just south of the town of San Donato in Poggio. There may be only a half dozen restaurants in the town and we have been to just about all of them. They are small,rustic and casual but the food is delicious and they have great selections of local wines. Few tourists find the place so it is all locals.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:24 pm to txbd
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Take buffalo mozzarella for example; the mozzarella from the Buffalo region in Italy should not be refrigerated to optimize the quality
That is correct. I actually found an Italian deli in Anaheim (Cortinas) that had real buffalo mozzarella from Naples. It was definitely better than what is sold as mozzarella here but the quality did suffer just from being imported. 99.99% of mozzarella balls sold in the USA were made in the USA from cow milk.
ETA if you're ever in Southern Italy and you see mozzarella balls being sold out of a 5 gallon bucket of water behind the counter get a couple. You're in for a real treat.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:40 pm to Dandy Lion
Nice grammar. You might want to learn more stateside before traveling abroad...
Posted on 6/28/20 at 3:01 pm to Dandy Lion
My experience is limited to the tourist areas around Rome but I did ejoy a few things Ill pass on:
1) Take it SLOW. Whatever you eat, its usually small servings. Thats the point though. Whatever is put in front of you, eat it as slow as you can. Take sips of whatever youre drinking, and savor it all. Lean back and talk with who youre with. Let the atmosphere add to the meal.
2) Dont be afraid to eat Late.
3) Olives, cheese, oil, bread, and sliced meat can be a better meal than a 3 course dinner at any fine dining restaurant if you let yourself enjoy it.
4) Great wine doesnt have to be expensive. Don't let it be.
1) Take it SLOW. Whatever you eat, its usually small servings. Thats the point though. Whatever is put in front of you, eat it as slow as you can. Take sips of whatever youre drinking, and savor it all. Lean back and talk with who youre with. Let the atmosphere add to the meal.
2) Dont be afraid to eat Late.
3) Olives, cheese, oil, bread, and sliced meat can be a better meal than a 3 course dinner at any fine dining restaurant if you let yourself enjoy it.
4) Great wine doesnt have to be expensive. Don't let it be.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:48 pm to SundayFunday
Fresh and local. Outside of the very very top restaurants in the USA, most restaurants use someone like Sysco or US foods to supply 90% of what they serve.
As far as I know Italy doesn't have this. They buy most of their ingredients locally daily or at most weekly.
The best food comes from the best ingredients. A great chef cant turn crappy ingredients into a great meal.
Then Italy, France, etc. have 1000s of years with those ingredients and what works and what doesn't. Items like cheese have had the kinks worked out for 300 years.
As far as I know Italy doesn't have this. They buy most of their ingredients locally daily or at most weekly.
The best food comes from the best ingredients. A great chef cant turn crappy ingredients into a great meal.
Then Italy, France, etc. have 1000s of years with those ingredients and what works and what doesn't. Items like cheese have had the kinks worked out for 300 years.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 1:40 pm to Dandy Lion
Don't expect to order an iced tea in an establishment, unless it's bottled.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 2:31 pm
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