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Wine recommendation
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:18 pm
I enjoy Cali red blends like the Orin Swift lineup but as my tastes develop, they seem too fruit-forward. Assuming we stay with California blends that are more subtle and refined, under $50, where should I look?
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:22 pm to Daktari
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:23 pm to Daktari
We really like Scout by Venge Vineyards. It’s a red blend roughy $40
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:35 pm to Daktari
Turley Zinfandels
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:44 pm to Daktari
It's hard to find reserved winemaking in California because Orin Swift and Wagner and the like dominate among casual drinkers, at least until you get into the really spendy Napa cabs (and even then it's increasingly difficult).
I would start with blends from Ridge, Chappellet and Bedrock and go from there. You'll find what you're looking for in the old school cabernet labels but they're really hard to find under 50 bucks.
IMO Ridge Geyserville is the best red blend in America for under 50 dollars.
As an aside, for the 50 dollar pricepoint you can start getting into some alright bordeaux, which is what I'd suggest if you're moving in the direction of reserved winemaking and the options are more plentiful abroad. Purists will tell you that the trend toward over the top is alive and well in Bordeaux too, but I think it's less noticeable.
I would start with blends from Ridge, Chappellet and Bedrock and go from there. You'll find what you're looking for in the old school cabernet labels but they're really hard to find under 50 bucks.
IMO Ridge Geyserville is the best red blend in America for under 50 dollars.
As an aside, for the 50 dollar pricepoint you can start getting into some alright bordeaux, which is what I'd suggest if you're moving in the direction of reserved winemaking and the options are more plentiful abroad. Purists will tell you that the trend toward over the top is alive and well in Bordeaux too, but I think it's less noticeable.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:20 pm to Daktari
I really like Joseph Phelps cab. It is around 55.
You may you want to look at the Raymond lines. The reserve is really good.
You may you want to look at the Raymond lines. The reserve is really good.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:32 pm to Daktari
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:36 pm to Daktari
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Assuming we stay with California blends that are more subtle and refined, under $50, where should I look?
Leave California for the old world
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:45 pm to GynoSandberg
Leave California for the old world
This may be the best advice. I may be looking for subtlety where it’s hard to find
This may be the best advice. I may be looking for subtlety where it’s hard to find
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:52 pm to Daktari
I'm not very knowledgeable about wines, so my database is not as vast as others. Someone may be able to recommend something better than this, but Textbook Cab (Napa) is my absolute favorite in the $25 category. I like it better than many $50 bottles I have tried. Difficult to beat especially at that price.
Try Cotes Du Rones region wines. I have yet to have a bad one, and it has become my favorite wine by region. Fantastic stuff. Has a fruitiness along with a nice earthiness to balance it out.
Try Cotes Du Rones region wines. I have yet to have a bad one, and it has become my favorite wine by region. Fantastic stuff. Has a fruitiness along with a nice earthiness to balance it out.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 6:13 pm to Daktari
I always found these wines very drinkable when I drank. Mathis Grenache
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:35 pm to Daktari
Two great recommendations already in this thread. Turley and Ridge. Ridge may be my favorite California wine that I can usually buy for under $40. Try to find some GSM blends from Santa Barbara County as well. Robert Sinskey makes some great wines but I am not sure you will find many under $50.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:38 pm to Daktari
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Leave California for the old world
This is the answer. California is king of fruit-forward wines. So saying you want to stay in California but not have a fruit forward blend is somewhat inherently contradictory (not always, but a lot of the time).
Also, what kind of blend? That's pretty vague. They're blending up a lot of shite these days with a lot of different varietals, particularly stateside.
It's time for you, OP, to visit the Rhone Valley. Lots of good shite coming out of Gigondas in the $30-$40 range. There are also some good village Cotes Du Rhones in the $25-$30 range. France or bust.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 10:15 am to FinleyStreet
For Italy he can buy daily drinkers produced by the Barolo, Babaresco and Super Tuscan producers that don't break the bank. Something like a Barbera or a Rosso produced by a Super Tuscan producer like Grattamacco. They're some great drinking wines made to be drunk soon after bottling.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 2:09 pm to Daktari
I agree with above posters that you should start looking elsewhere to expand your horizons.
Look to Rioja.
Look to Rioja.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 4:05 pm to Daktari
Look for something in Paso. Daou comes mind. If your trying to get out the fruit forward stay out of napa. Mabye try a zin. Ridge makes really awesome wines. Maybe try something from Howell mountain.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 11:16 pm to Daktari
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Posted on 6/5/21 at 11:16 am to Daktari
Saldo is a favorite of mine.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 6:06 pm to Daktari
Look into left bank blends from Medoc or Graves if you like Cab heavy blends.
Hell, I found a few bottles of a 15 Chassagne-Montrachet red burgundy for $45 a bottle at my local wine shop. And I would drink that over any Cali or Oregon Pinot
Hell, I found a few bottles of a 15 Chassagne-Montrachet red burgundy for $45 a bottle at my local wine shop. And I would drink that over any Cali or Oregon Pinot
Posted on 6/5/21 at 6:46 pm to FinleyStreet
$50 budget for rhone blends he should be looking into southern rhone chateauneuf du papes and northern rhone Syrah heavy Croze Hermitage
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