re: What's your recipe for an OLD FASHIONED

please tell you don't muddle all that fruit in there. The country club old fashioned should die a quick death!

-2 oz rye
-good splash of high quality simple syrup
-3 dash angostura bitter
-1 dash alternate bitter (depending where I wanna take it I use either regans orange, or woodford reserve aged chocolate or spiced cherry bitter)
-express and garnish with orange peel

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2 oz bourbon
3 dash of bitters
1/4 oz of simple
Stirred with ice, not shaken
Garnished with an orange swath

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1 Sugar cube, or if you're feeling fancy, powdered sugar. Or Brown Sugar Syrup for the third level.
Bitters - I used Angostura and Orange

Muddle. Add Orange Peel, Muddle a little more

Bourbon, 2-2.5 oz.

Luxardo Cherry - Pressed into the bottom ever so slightly

Ice

Stir

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I don't drink Old Fashioneds, so maybe this is a dumb question, but I notice there seems to be a pretty wide array of ideas of what it is. Like you hear people talk about X bar having a good one, and Y bar doing a terrible job. I've even seen soda, even Coke, added.

Why are there so many vastly different recipes? These two quoted are quite different from one another. Is one of them not actually an Old Fashioned?

And I guess my spinoff question from that is that if you firmly believe the top recipe, for example, is THE definition of an Old Fashioned.. why would you take the risk and order one out if there's a chance it comes out like the bottom recipe? Or with fizzy soda?

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Not trolling, seriously want to know why stirred and not shaken?

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The prevailing dogma states that drinks made with pure spirits should be stirred and drinks containing citrus mixers like lime juice or lemon juice etc. should be shaken

To me there have always been 2 versions of the old fashioned. What I feel is classic (all spirit garnished with fruit) and what my bartender friend dubs a country club old fashioned (fruit muddled into it). Recipies will vary, but your going to get some version of one of these 2 basic ideas.

I never blindly order an old fashioned at a bar I don't know well for fear I'm going to be served the muddled fruit version, which I hate.

3oz good bourbon
1oz Bayou Satsuma Rum
5 dashes bitters
2 cane sugar cubes
Garnish w/Luxardo cherries & orange peel

Generally, it matters most for white liquors like gin or vodka. Shaking “bruises” the liquor, which doesn’t affect the taste per se (but see the comment about dilution), but it puts bubbles in your cocktail and makes it cloudy.

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Fill a 12 oz size glass about half way with water.
Add 1 or 2 table spoons of Orange Marmalade and stir until dissolved.
Add about 2 oz of Bourbon [I drink Jim Bean]
Add about 1 table spoon of Grenadine
Add 5 or 6 ice cubes.
Stir gently a few times.

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Id try it but you are bout to trigger some people with this

Watering whiskey down is just a matter of personal choice. Many are watered down to some degree from the distillery to whatever proof they prefer it. Same thing with sugar/ simple syrup and the orange and cherry. It’s all personal preference. The Old fashion came from trying to hide the flavor of bad whiskey. That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy the same flavors with a good whiskey, or just enjoy the flavors of cherry, orange, and whiskey however you like.

I love one as an appertif and not sweet but prefer the cherry crushed to add some flavor.

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he only way that matters...
The Wisconsin Way

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Abso-freaking-lutely. An Old Fashioned is made with brandy. One of my main drinks.

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Watch the video I linked to (all of his videos are pretty damn funny) and you can make your own. FWIW if you're into other Wisconsin things there's a book and PBS show out there titled Old Fashioned that's pretty good covering the culture.

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It's a Northern thing up here on Fox Sports North but you all can get it down there too. There is a long standing weekly TV show called Discover Wisconsin that highlights different cities, counties, and things to do around the state. They've done an episode on Brandy Old Fashioned's. You can get the Discover Wisconsin app on Roku, etc. It's got a bit if a PBS feel to it.

Good, low key show if you're into travel shows. Check it out.

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1 Sugar cube, or if you're feeling fancy, powdered sugar. Or Brown Sugar Syrup for the third level.
Bitters - I used Angostura and Orange

Muddle. Add Orange Peel, Muddle a little more

Bourbon, 2-2.5 oz.

Luxardo Cherry - Pressed into the bottom ever so slightly

Ice

Stir

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well don't do this, that's for sure

If you're muddling a bunch of fruit shite at the bottom of your glass, that's a massive red flag.

Add syrup then bitters, swirl, ice, bourbon, express peel, drop it in, stir, you're done here. You can a luxardo cherry if you really want to, but completely unnecessary.