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re: UPDATED: 40 Arpent Closing Today
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
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No secret craft beer financials are tough right now
Courtyard announced the other day that they are in the works of opening a bigger second location. Sounds like if you make awesome beer then you can stay afloat.
Hate to see 40 Arpent go. Entrepreneurs have set backs sometimes.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 1:52 pm
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:52 pm to Saskwatch
Where is he going to move?
I love the beers there, but I didn't care much for the "atmosphere"
I love the beers there, but I didn't care much for the "atmosphere"
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:59 pm to Saskwatch
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Courtyard announced the other day that they are in the works of opening a bigger second location. Sounds like if you make awesome beer then you can stay afloat.
Yes, Courtyard has great beer in a great location to catch locals and tourists. More people will go to NOLA, Courtyard, Urban South, and probably Port Orleans because the locations are well suited. The ones that can also produce good beer are sitting on gold mines.
The struggling fringe breweries would do well to consider consolidating to put together their strengths to make better beer. There's something to "two (or three) minds are better than one." The problem is swallowing pride and accepting less control, but if it helps these entrepreneurs that love beer and keeps them in the game longer, I hope they consider the options.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:01 pm to Parrish
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And yeah, he sounds salty
If his investor sold him out, that would make someone salty, for sure.
Even if the investor had good reason to.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:06 pm to Saskwatch
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Courtyard announced the other day that they are in the works of opening a bigger second location. Sounds like if you make awesome beer then you can stay afloat.
It doesn't even need to be "Awesome" to stay afloat, just consistently good beer. And an inviting taproom with the occasional good to great seasonal/specialty doesn't hurt.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:06 pm to notiger1997
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Where is he going to move?
Just opening a second location I believe. Im assuming like a detached tap room/bar. Didn't say where or if its 100% happening.
CY is pretty unique and would like for them to stay that way if able. Im assuming the unusual situation of having this secondary location in order to serve and seat more people would allow them to keep all the benefits of their current operation.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:08 pm to Parrish
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The struggling fringe breweries would do well to consider consolidating to put together their strengths to make better beer. There's something to "two (or three) minds are better than one." The problem is swallowing pride and accepting less control, but if it helps these entrepreneurs that love beer and keeps them in the game longer, I hope they consider the options.
Couple of thoughts.
1) Most of these smaller breweries have 1-2 "pretty good" beers and a bunch of blah ones. They also rotate through with a bunch of ones trying to find a hit, most are not hits.
2) They don't sell enough of that 1-2 "pretty good" beers around town / don't have enough shelf space. All the profit they make from the pretty good beer, gets used trying to chase the next bit hit.
3) Maybe if some of the smaller breweries could take their individual pretty good beers and put them together, they could get a line of pretty good beers together. Then, since they will no longer be losing their shirts, they can turn the pretty good beers into great beers.
4) I've met several brewers over the years, they tend to more closely resemble "artists" then "businessmen".
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:08 pm to LSUBoo
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It doesn't even need to be "Awesome" to stay afloat
Would be hard otherwise due to fact that I can pick up any number of good beers on my way home at a grocery store for cheaper. Availability is incredible right now.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:09 pm to LSUFanHouston
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e sounds salty
Divorces do that to men
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:13 pm to Saskwatch
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Would be hard otherwise due to fact that I can pick up any number of good beers on my way home at a grocery store for cheaper. Availability is incredible right now.
Yeah, but don't forget that for most of these breweries, the "boring" flagships like Canebrake, Tin Roof Blonde, Southern Drawl, NOLA Blonde/Brown, Catahoula Common, Kingfish Cream Ale, etc. make up a large percentage of their sales.
I don't think any of those beers are awesome, but they do well and they keep breweries afloat.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:15 pm to LSUrme
I'm wondering about Southern Craft. They can't be making money. Not sure if they have deep pockets behind them.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:23 pm to Cash
Damn. I was in st. Bernard this past weekend and tried to go to 40 arpent but I was too early and the tap room wasn't open yet.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:24 pm to Cash
It's the thinning of the herd. The good producers will stay around. Who's next? Wayward Owl?
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:26 pm to Cash
If more breweries in Baton Rouge open up, they might struggle, but right now they are just the worst of 2. They have taps everywhere in BR.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:27 pm to LSUBoo
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Yeah, but don't forget that for most of these breweries, the "boring" flagships like Canebrake, Tin Roof Blonde, Southern Drawl, NOLA Blonde/Brown, Catahoula Common, Kingfish Cream Ale, etc. make up a large percentage of their sales.
I don't think any of those beers are awesome, but they do well and they keep breweries afloat.
They appeal to the mass market... they appeal to people who want to tell everyone how much they like craft beer... while not really challenging their beer tastes.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:28 pm to GeauxPack81
I might head to southern craft this weekend to try their new coffee stout
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:32 pm to Saskwatch
Wonder how much is due to trying to start off canning, distributing and running a taproom.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 2:46 pm to LSUFanHouston
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They appeal to the mass market...
Sounds like a solid business plan to me.
I'm not intimately familiar with 40 Arpent, but I don't recall them putting out anything that would generally appeal to the mass market fringe craft beer drinkers.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:09 pm to LSUBoo
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I'm not intimately familiar with 40 Arpent, but I don't recall them putting out anything that would generally appeal to the mass market fringe craft beer drinkers.
Duckweed, maybe. That's it.
That's also probably why they had financial problems.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 3:10 pm to LSUrme
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especially the "Fans" for your support over the years.
No need for the quotes- you shoulda made better beer
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