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TulaneLSU's review of Popeyes fried flounder sandwich

Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:07 pm
Dear Friends,

“Right over there,” the 65 year old man, a retired NOPSI employee instructed me. He called himself an engineer, but I think he was a meter reader before advancing to work in an office at Market Street Power Plant, that beast of a building that still occasionally haunts my dreams. His skin was the color of almond skin, and he took great pride in his skin color, constantly applying sunscreen whenever it was before 5 in the evening. His hair had tight curls and was the color of Spanish moss after it has dried for several weeks. His lips always were glossy, and when he smiled you could see he had all his teeth, even if they were not smooth and shiny like his skin. His eye color is unknown to me. He never once in my presence removed a pair of fluorescent yellow rimmed sunglasses. I think he got them from Wendy’s for a dollar during one of their unusual promotions in the 90s. He said they were polarized and let him see the secrets of the sea.

He was pointing to a circular piece of concrete on the northwestern edge of the Industrial Canal. It was wrapped with old rail ties or perhaps 2 x 4s covered in turpentine. The structure, about ten feet above the water’s edge, stood sentinel at the entrance of that artificial sliver connecting the River to the Lake. With a good cast, I could reach it with my Abu Garcia Black Max which was fixed to a burgundy Berkley rod that had quite a delightful action to it.

On the old Seabrook fishing dock he was known as Samps. I never found out if his actual name was Sampson or whatever became of him. I assume he no longer walks among us. I have not seen him since 2005.

For a period of two or three summers, when I was not crafting or reading at home, praying and worshiping in church, conducting a streetcar, or solving the mystery behind the people who are chasing me, I could be found at Seabrook. Mother seemed happy to bring me, to get me out the house. I think she was worried that after my experience with Captain Mike that I would never again return to the outdoors. When I showed a desire to do so, she was most encouraging.

During one August evening, after one of those New Orleans thunderstorms that appears suddenly and rages uncontrollably for a half hour to give way to chirping birds, a steambath, and rays of refracted sun that strain the eyes as they bounce off puddles, the bite was one. Samps was already there and he had an ice chest full of fish. He was casting his typical dual speck rig, with a gold and silver head on each jig that had white monofilament tails.

As I approached, like an early disciple, he was happy to share the good news. “They are biting good. Get your bait right up next to the concrete barrier. Let it sink, and give it a bop off the bottom every few seconds.”

Any fisherman who hears a report like that becomes overjoyed to the point that the mind works far faster than the hands. I tossed my tackle box to the ground and went to tie on a red bellied chartreuse sparkle beetle. But my hands could not keep up with the mind’s vision of having a lure already in the water. It took me several tries before I could finally get a good knot on my line. I cast to the spot.

“Darn! Shoot! Heckfire!” I was still young and had not yet tamed my tongue to guard it from curse words. My lure was caught on one of the many obstacles that found a home at the bottom of the Lake there. There was so much rebar and rip rap that once lined the streets of the city down on the seafloor that being able to retrieve your lure all the way back to the rod after bumping it on the bottom was enough to give a true thankful prayer to God. But God’s plan for that sparkle beetle was to find its rest around a submerged rod of iron.

I tied another jighead to my line and made a similar cast. “Good cast,” Samps assured me, “That will get you one.”



And sure enough, after two bumps, my rod tapped thrice in succession. I yanked back on the rod, and that satisfying feeling of resistance sent joy through my hands. The fish did not rise to the surface like the trout usually did there. It dug down, like it did not want to see the sun. I hoped it was not a stingray.

About a minute passed before the fish finally showed its colors in the dark lime waters. It was late August, when salinity and clarity are at a peak in Pontchartrain. And this was before MRGO was shut, so we were essentially fishing in Gulf water. A flash of white briefly appeared before the fish pulled down even harder. The run was short lived; I turned him and he was on the surface, a beautiful mat of brown which tapered at his head giving rise to a tiny head with one visible eye and some intimidating teeth.

It was a flounder, and the flounder bite was on. Those who have fished Seabrook know that it is not everyday you catch flounder there, but this day, between the two of us, Samps and I reeled in 14 flounder. This was back in the days when there was no size or creel limit for flounder I believe. Now I think you can only keep ten per person. Samps had a limit of specks, and by dusk, he was ready to go. “You be sure to let me know how those flounder taste.”

This was the summer before Ms. Mae returned to glory, and when Mother and I returned, Ms. Mae was thoroughly jubilant when I opened the ice chest. “Oh my! Flounder!” Ms. Mae was one of the great chefs of New Orleans, and anyone who ever tasted her fish dishes wanted nothing more than another one.

She turned on our oven to broil and in minutes that fish was dressed. She rubbed some Crisco -- this was before we discovered Great Value vegetable oil -- on both sides of the fish. Using her favorite serrated knife, she scored it with three long lines. “Each line represents Jesus, our Father, and the Holy Ghost.” Then she shook some sort of seasoning that had a lot of paprika in it. She squeezed some lemon juice on top just as she slid it into the heat.

Flounder do not take long to finish and before I knew it, I had a whole fish staring at me as I sat to devour it. It tasted as good as you can imagine. Eating whole flounder, besides being delicious, is fun and so satisfying because you end up with nothing but the head, fins, and bones. There is a sense of accomplishment when there is nothing but bone and cartilage left, as you know that fish truly reached his telos.

Ms. Mae prepared flounder for us over the next few days in several other ways. One night she marinated it in Italian dressing and baked it. It was okay. The next night, she fried two whole. Although they looked as good as the whole fried flounder at Middendorf’s they did not taste as good. I always preferred her broiled version.



I tell that story because when Popeyes recently announced that it was releasing a fried flounder sandwich, I had great hopes. Popeyes is a proud representative of the great city of New Orleans. It is the pinnacle of fast food dining. With its excellent service, clean dining rooms, and outstanding food, it is a clear cut fast food favorite for all people who love good food. Its fried chicken is better than any restaurant’s. Its sides are among the best. I know many shared sadness when they learned the dirty rice was leaving. Dirty rice was never one of the sides I chose. My favorites from the top are the red beans, mashed potatoes, and green beans.
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13298 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:07 pm to

I hardly took notice when Popeyes advertised that this flounder was from “the icy waters of the Pacific Ocean.” Maybe I should have. Now I do not expect that Popeyes chickens originate from New Orleans. And it probably good that they do not use flounder caught in the waters of Louisiana, lest we destroy the stock. But I must say, this flounder was a bit odd tasting to me.

Mother brought me to our favorite Popeyes, which is now the one on Carrollton. It was a crying shame when a place like Izzo’s replaces an institution like our original favorite, the Popeyes on Magazine. Where are people Uptown supposed to get Popeyes? Is its closure perhaps evidence that Uptown is no longer Uptown but now a playground for Northeasterners? How is there no Popeyes in all of Uptown, and likewise Marigny and Bywater? You could argue the St. Charles Popeyes is Uptown, but that seems much more CBD to me. It makes me very sad that there are now only nine Popeyes in all of Orleans Parish, and none within an easy walk of Tulane or Audubon Park.

Before we went to Popeyes, though, we also journeyed to Sam’s and Walmart. Although people make fun of both stores, you can get one of the best king cakes at Sam’s, and it is cheaper than if you bought it at the bakery itself. La Louisiane’s king cakes are truly exceptional. Its cream cheese cake does not use any cinnamon, and for that I am grateful. Sometime in my life, it became common to turn king cakes into cinnamon buns, adding tons of disgusting cinnamon to the cake. I blame Randazzo’s and its overly iced rankness for introducing this style, which some people now even boast is a “traditional king cake.” I do not know what type of history they were taught that they consider this relatively new creation as traditional.



In just a few hours I have devoured this delicious king cake. It is cream cheese and the sugar-icing ratio is perfect. The cake itself actually is enjoyable, unlike the cinnamon rolls now masquerading as king cakes. Truly, someone needs to save the king cake from these cinnamon roll Eleionomae.




Walmart was also on the agenda this morning, and while there, I visited the canned seafood section. There I made an unexpected discovery: caviar. But not just any caviar, this was caviar made of seaweed pearls. At $4 for a four ounce dish, it was no debate if it should be purchased. Of course, I stocked up on Great Value smoked oysters and canned sardines.



One should never underestimate the luxury items available at Walmart’s grocery department. With our groceries adequately made, I told Mother, “Popeyes has the new flounder sandwiches. Could we please get a few to try? I think our friends on the Food Board would like to know how they taste.”

Mother nodded and we were soon off Earhart doing two U-turns to get to the Popeyes. There was no line because the workers were moving so efficiently. My polite server had my order freshly made and I was out in the door in less than three minutes, far faster than any Chick-Fil-A. With tax, it was $5 per sandwich.

“Do not open that in the car. Wait until we get home.” Mother does not allow me to eat in her car. The smell of a fried flounder sandwich though had me tiptoeing on the edge of disobedience.

As we pulled into the drive, even before the car was in Park, I opened my door and ran to the porch. There I opened the first pouch to find a New Orleans wrapper. It was not Lil’ Wayne. LOL.



The bun reminded me of the chicken sandwich bun of 18 month ago. The breading of the fish looked quite flat, and not nearly as tantalizing as the chaotic edges of the Popeyes chicken sandwich. The tartar sauce on top was quite underrepresented. After one bite, I realized most of the sauce was actually on below the filet of fish. And there were also two pickles in the same vein as those found on the chicken sandwich.







In fact, the bread, sauce on the bottom, and pickles were identical to the chicken sandwich varieties. The sauce was actually quite spicy. But the fish was not nearly as plump as the chicken. The flaking white meat was less than a half inch thick through most parts. And the breading was uninspired, almost like the breading on frozen fish sticks. Now that is probably an unfair criticism, as the breading was better than than fish sticks. But on a continuum, the breading was closer to the fish sticks breading than to the Popeyes chicken sandwich breading.



I have eaten a fried fish sandwich only a handful of times. Occasionally I have seen a fried trout poorboy on the menu. And only a few of those times have I tried it. And that is because fried fish, at least good fried fish, deserve to be served on a plate and not hidden between bread. I suppose that is why when you see fried fish poorboys, most of the time, the fish is either some less desirable fish like catfish or Sawai or whatever that catfish of the East is called.

The best bites of the Popeyes fried flounder sandwich were those that tasted like bread, pickles, and hot sauce. The bites whereby you could taste the fish were very disappointing, and quite fishy. It tasted like frozen fish. It did not taste like the flounder of my memory.

With my third sandwich in hand, I decided it needed some doctoring, so I retrieved the seaweed caviar and put a clump on the filet.







The caviar made quite a nice addition to the sandwich, mellowing some of the fishiness with its seasalty fullness. I have already written a suggestion letter to Popeyes corporate asking that they consider offering caviar topping to this sandwich. It moves the sandwich from something on par with a McDonald’s Filet-o-Fish to something more worthy of a Popeyes dish.

Popeyes hit a grandslam with the chicken sandwich 18 months ago. But the recent chocolate stuffed beignets and this fried fish sandwich are flops. That is not to say that Popeyes is a one hit wonder, though. The regular menu is still exceptional. However, I am starting to think that Popeyes will never succeed at anything beyond fried chicken and the sides Mr. Al invented. I am okay with that.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 2/11/21 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:15 pm to
Thank you for your service, TulaneLSU. I hope you and mother have a wonderful Mardi Gras. This year Mardi Gras will be cold. Perhaps you can enjoy some hot chocolate.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42375 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:15 pm to
I will second that the chocolate stuffed beignets are not good at all
Posted by lazy
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:23 pm to
And this needed yet a third thread why?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

And this needed yet a third thread why?


Attention
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:31 pm to
TulaneLSU is the only poster I’m curious to see how he is in real life.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
41216 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:35 pm to
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nine Popeyes in all of Orleans Parish


My favorite Popeyes was on the corner of Carrollton and Canal - I grew up around there and we probably went more often then we should

Also, at that time the Winn Dixie was across the street from where it is now on Carrollton - and their fried chicken was pretty good then too

I can’t understand your obsession with Walmart but to each his own
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21909 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:37 pm to
Can we get a rating of 1-10, or hell...... 1 I wont eat another one, 2 I will eat it again.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

TulaneLSU is the only poster I’m curious to see how he is in real life
Here...


Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2131 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:06 pm to
It's starting to make sense. Tulane-LSU may quite possibly be outdoor writer Todd Masson messing with us all here.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:15 pm to
This needed two full posts, huh?
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3541 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:17 pm to
You actually got me to buy some Great Value smoked oysters. Not bad with hot sauce.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16538 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

TulaneLSU


The lures are a nice touch. You have a fine eye for quality fishing lures.

I particularly like the Chartreuse Spoon. Did you Chartreuse works so well because it remains visible no matter water depth even when other colors in the spectrum disappear?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10186 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:19 pm to
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There was no line because the workers were moving so efficiently.


Friend,

This strains credulity.

Yours,

Demshoes.
Posted by Fat Harry
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

My favorite Popeyes was on the corner of Carrollton and Canal


The Popeyes buffet right next to the all you can eat sushi place. Damn you Katrina!!!!
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68050 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

right next to the all you can eat sushi place
Kan Pai was good. Soft shell crab roll, all you could eat.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/11/21 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

I have eaten a fried fish sandwich only a handful of times


Friend,

Next time you find yourself east of Destin, might I suggest seeking out the fried grouper sandwich at the Seagrove Village Market? I'm not high on fried fish sandwiches myself, but this one is quite delicious. I will add the caveat that it has been about 10 years since I last consumed one, and my understanding is they were forced to move locations due to greedy developers from out of state, but I suspect the recipe hasn't changed much, if at all. The business also serves as a small general store where you can purchase small trinkets and whatnot to remember your visit to the area.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 4:09 pm to
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. With its excellent service
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