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Roux that separates. This guy talks funny, but he explains it.

Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 12/12/22 at 11:14 pm
One hot one cold is okay. Both hot, it coagulates.

Turn captions on for translation. I enjoyed the entire video.

ETA the Link to the video.
This post was edited on 12/12/22 at 11:16 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:32 am to
I’ve always had both at least warm if not hot. Never had one separate in my life.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:37 am to
Same here. I made 3 gallons of gumbo over the weekend. Stock was simmering as I added the just made hot roux to it. Same way I always do it.
Posted by DocHolliday1964
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 7:53 am to
I’ve never had one separate from temperature differences or similarities . I have had them separate due to old flour. Multiple gumbos with separation issues and I tried ALL combinations of temps to no avail. After reading Folse’s book,threw out 10 lbs of flour and started over. Bingo. No more separation. The problem hasn’t recurred.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 7:54 am
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:01 am to
I've had gumbo separate when dumping cool (room temp) box stock in hot roux. Never had hot stock/roux separate.
Posted by Mad Dogg
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:10 am to
Only time I had one separate was when I used jarred roux for gumbo that one time. But that’s another thread. Those who normalize skimming lots of oil off of gumbos should be deported (in my tolerant opinion).
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:36 am to
quote:

I’ve always had both at least warm if not hot. Never had one separate in my life.



same here, i think it has more to do with old flour that is partially water wet
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:21 am to
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Those who normalize skimming lots of oil off of gumbos should be deported (in my tolerant opinion).


ive always assumed when i get oil on the surface its from getting the sausage too hot and the oil from it surfaced.

so for awhile i was obsessively browning the sausage then dumping into paper towels in a bowl that i patted dry before adding it back.

however, i've just browned sausage and dumped it into my gumbo the last few times without doing that and haven't had an oil on top.

its one of those mysteries to me; sometimes i get a layer of oil and sometimes i dont.
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:38 am to
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its one of those mysteries to me; sometimes i get a layer of oil and sometimes i dont.


Same. Next time I am gong to cook down the sausage and chicken thighs to get some of the grease out before adding to the gumbo. A few times I'll have to skim off grease from the gumbo.

My other way around it is I let the gumbo sit in the fridge for a day and then easily remove the congealed fat.
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:52 am to
quote:

. I made 3 gallons of gumbo over the weekend. Stock was simmering as I added the just made hot roux to it. Same way I always do it.


I've added roux to a gravy to thicken it up, but the splatter from dumping in hot roux was a mess. How do you dump the roux?
Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:52 am to
my jar roux never separates
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:59 am to
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the splatter from dumping in hot roux was a mess. How do you dump the roux?


I do it in increments using a ladle. I wait to do each scoop until the previous has incorporated.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:44 am to
I do it the same way LL does it-1 ladle at a time.
Posted by LSUballs
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 10:46 am to
quote:

the splatter from dumping in hot roux was a mess. How do you dump the roux?




Start by not dumping in the roux and splattering it everywhere.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 11:02 am to
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I do it in increments using a ladle. I wait to do each scoop until the previous has incorporated.


Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:24 pm to
I always did hot roux into hot stock that was steaming off. This was how I learned working in a kitchen with a tilt a skillet.

I think it's cooking the roux properly and using the right mixture. I only get oil floating on mine when I add in andouile, though I mainly do crab/shrimp.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

I always did hot roux into hot stock that was steaming off. This was how I learned wiring in a kitchen with a tilt a skillet.

I think it's cooking the roux properly and using the right mixture.


I've only had one break on me. It was Christmas eve-eve and I had guests coming. No doubt in my mind it was old flour.

I too do the small amounts of stock and let it build before I add more.

That said, I thought the guy standing in his own Michelin two star restaurant made a nice video. He poured all of that cold milk in at once, and it set perfectly. I assumed it may be of some interest to others here.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:39 pm to
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He poured all of that cold milk in at once, and it set perfectly. I assumed it may be of some interest to others here.


I didn’t watch the video, but I see you mentioned milk. When I make a bechamel/white sauce, I add the milk or cream to the butter flour mixture right out of the fridge unless I have the forethought to take it out early and get it to room temp or close. I was referencing dark roux for gumbo.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

bechamel/white sauce


That's exactly what it was. He took it even further. I go down wormholes of videos like this. You have to turn on captions for the English subtitles.
Posted by bayou2
New Orleans, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/13/22 at 9:31 pm to


I have made gumbo using dark roux since I was a kid (12 yrs old)
My dad taught me to make the roux as dark as the color "umber" without buring it, not even a smidgen.

Once you get the correct color at that exact instant, dump in 2 or 3 cups of diced onions - all at once. The roux will stick and coat the onions so that when you add the stock the roux will gentlely blend to the liquid and not separate. After that you just add everything else.
Works evertime

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