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Rib eye burgers, anyone make them?

Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:28 am
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:28 am
I am going to grind up some rib eyes I have to make some burgers Friday. Rib eyes are great on the grill but I want to do something different with these and just got a meat grinder.

I was going to grind them and season with S&P after forming the patties. Anyone have any other ideas/tips that they have done with rib eye?

I have some thick pork belly strips I could add a little in for flavor. I think the rib eyes would have enough fat on there own if not.

Better to season with S&P before grinding so its mixed all in, or stick to season outside only right before grilling?

Plan to do them on my Primo indirect at about 275-300 with some cherry wood or something.

TIA
Posted by Churchill
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:32 am to
My neighbor down the road made hot tamales out of ground #2 rib eyes. They were quite tasty.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:38 am to
Seasoning before or after grinding makes no difference unless you’re using something larger like cracked red pepper that can be ground more or can clog up your plate. Pork belly is an excellent source of pork fat. Personally, I’d keep my beef as beef and not add pork. But if you want to, go ahead.

Just remember kids, pork belly is not bacon and does not taste like bacon unless it’s cured and smoked.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:39 am to
I hopped on the smashburger train. My wife said it was the best burger she's ever had and it was with cheap 80/20 from Kroger.

I'd recommend that method:

Serious Eats - Smash Burger
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:44 am to
Thats my thought too I dont know that id need more fat, I just see some putting bacon in there grinds. I dont have any bacon but I do have the pork belly.

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Smash burger


I have done some of these as well and it is an option. I just haven't smoked any in a while so was thinking about that. But a double decker thin rib eye smash burger sounds kinda good too
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:52 am to
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NOLAGT


When Deano's south opens back up check their weekly specials. Every once in a while they will have a ribeye burger and it is delicious.
Posted by ChEgrad
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:03 pm to
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Plan to do them on my Primo indirect at about 275-300 with some cherry wood or something.


Curious as to why anyone would cook burgers this way.

As to salt and pepper, if you grind then cook right away, then adding seasoning to the grind would be ok. Otherwise, you’ll get a texture change if you wait too long to cook. What you will have made is a sausage.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:08 pm to
I wouldn't recommend salting your burger during the grind, or mixing in when forming.

I don't salt my burger until immediately before they are put on the grill or griddle.

Mixing the salt into the patty changes the texture and in my opinion not it a good way.

I am sure someone who's already posted on this thread will be an qualified expert on this and debunk my opinion.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Mixing the salt into the patty changes the texture and in my opinion not it a good way.



I think it’s tied to how long it’s been mixed... I like mixing everything in, but I don’t let it sit. I cut the grill on, go mix it all up, patty them out, and cook them. They’re not sitting in a mixed state more than 5 or 10 minutes until they’re on the grill.

In the past, I’ve mixed it up and put it in the fridge for a couple hours or I’ve bought those pre mixed patties at Kroger or a butcher shop that have been sitting in the cooler for however long. I always think those suck arse.

I also wouldn’t make ribeye burgers. I’d just cut them half an inch thick and season them how I do any other steak and throw them in a po-boy bun and have a steak sandwich.

I’m also no expert on any of this, so what the hell do I know...
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:49 pm to
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Curious as to why anyone would cook burgers this way


The reason I do it is because of a few things.

Sometimes I like the burger to have a good deep smoke flavor that you can't get with a hot fast grilling.

Slower cook time so you can hit a target temp in a thick burger easier or get it well done without burning the outside (note I only do this for thicker patties not thin patties)

I find that the burger doesn't shrink as much as it does over a hot fire. In my head that is keeping more of the fat/juice in the patty not burning up in the coals.

More time to drink

Do not go too low on the temp. I try to stay around 275 so I still get good smoke and it will brown the outside of the patty. I did it lower like 225-250 and what happened was the meat did NOT change color on the inside. It freaked out some of my guests (and me a little lol). It seems that if the cooking is gradual enough at low temps that even tho it reads well done on a temp probe it wasn't hot enough for the color to change for whatever scientific reason it said when I looked it up.

I had read about the salt changing the texture if done too far in advance. I am not sure if I am going to grind and shape patties the night before or do it right then. So wasn't sure what others have done in regards to seasoning.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 1:51 pm to
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I also wouldn’t make ribeye burgers. I’d just cut them half an inch thick and season them how I do any other steak and throw them in a po-boy bun and have a steak sandwich.


I have read its not the best use for a burger as well, but I have some and want to try it out for myself. That's why I was wondering about tossing in some other cut to add a different flavor profile. I may just keep it simple this time tho with just ribeye and S&P.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:02 pm to
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wasn't sure what others have done in regards to seasoning


I grind mine every chance I can, unless under time constraint.

I have ground, shaped and refrigerated overnight before without issue.

I usually go around 70:30 ratio
Usually grind chuck, and if I can because it's delicious I try and get some short rib or brisket.

Didn't realize your OP said you were doing this indirect...Goodluck with that.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Didn't realize your OP said you were doing this indirect...Goodluck with that.


Not sure how indirect will work with the ribeye burgers but have done it that way with ribeye steak (regular burgers too). Really reverse sear...smoke for a while then sear at the end. Almost Sous vide'ish. Issue might be some in attendance might want their burger well done...I'm more of a medium guy soooo idk.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Wasp
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:05 pm to
Ribeye burgers come out great.
Don’t add pork unless you are planning to cook to well.

Two techniques I use are smash for thinner burgers and serve med rare. Or in oven on broil 500 with my cast iron preheated and a nice .5-.6 lb burger. Don’t need to flip and only takes about 8 minutes. Liberal salt and pepper on top. And on the top rack.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 3:54 pm to
If you bought Ribeyes of a grade that you would eat, then turning them into burgers is not for me

It's your money, though
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:40 pm to
Damn rednecks want to smoke everything. Smh
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 4:51 pm to
Salt will change the texture???? Huh?

Salt binds to water. If you add salt and extra water, part of the salt molecule binds to the meat and another part binds to the water. Therefore the meat will hold more water.

If you add salt and no extra water, the salt can pull water from inside the meat to the surface, which will in effect, dry the meat. This isn’t really an issue with ground meat.

Salt does not change the texture of sausage. Don’t know why you would say that. You can change the texture by adding salt AND water, making the sausage softer due to the water.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 11:39 pm to
I think they are food grade ribeyes, I still froze some whole. I didn’t want just steaks and have a grinder to play with.

I get tired of the same old routine



Posted by Janky
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:44 am to
Those are some pretty ribeyes. Pretty sure I would grilled those.
Posted by Rouge
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:24 am to
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have a grinder to play with.



quote:

tired of the same old routine


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