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re: Rib eye burgers, anyone make them?

Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:40 am to
Posted by SixthAndBarone
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:40 am to
From your Link - Flavor: Immensely savory, with richness, nuttiness, and gaminess to spare. Thanks to the diligent work of flies, this muscle is used constantly throughout the cow's life, and as a result, is about as flavorful as they come. It's as if the cow swallowed an entire other cow,* compressed it, and shoved it all into its own tail. Fattiness that doesn't just blur the line between delicious and over-indulgent, but gives them both a miss, jumping straight into the realm of obscene. It leaves a coat in your mouth reminiscent of drinking a beef-flavored candle.

Good Lord, y’all are overthinking burgers.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:49 am to
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Those are some pretty ribeyes. Pretty sure I would grilled those


I still have 3 that will be grilled/cooked another day. I did already cook some More traditionally last weekend. Well I SVed them for the first time and they were awesome.

I may SV these burgers too, still undecided.












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Good Lord, y’all are overthinking burgers.


More than likely, but why not
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 6:51 am
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:17 am to
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I am sure someone who's already posted on this thread will be an qualified expert on this and debunk my opinion.


Nailed it.

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SixthAndBarone


What culinary school did you go to?



These pics from Serious Eats have me thinking that salting changes the texture.
What do you think is happening here if timing of salt doesn't change the texture of a burger?

Salted right before cooking



Salted before the patty is formed



Link to article
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:36 am to
Salting breaks down surface proteins given time. Its essentially dry brining.

When ground meat is salted there is much more surface area for the salt to do its work (inside the patty because it's no longer a solid piece of meat).

Its science.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:39 am
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:43 am to
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KosmoCramer


quote:

breaks down surface proteins


I know.

Was hoping for 6th and Baronne to drop some knowledge on us.

Posted by VernonPLSUfan
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:45 am to
Used to run a restaurant that cut their own steaks. After about 3 to 4 months I would take the discard meat from whole rib-eyes, N.Y. strips and tenderloins to a butcher and have the meat double grinded. Used it for the meat in lasagna, appetizers and sometimes hamburgers. It was the real deal.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:47 am to
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Used to run a restaurant that cut their own steaks. After about 3 to 4 months I would take the discard meat from whole rib-eyes, N.Y. strips and tenderloins to a butcher and have the meat double grinded. Used it for the meat in lasagna, appetizers and sometimes hamburgers. It was the real deal.


Hopefully the scraps were frozen
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:50 am to
My Dad would make the smash burgers back in the day..Most of the time they were way over cooked (hockey pucks) but he would hit the mark a few times.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:51 am to
1.5 minutes one side, 1 minute the other.

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:01 am to
Didn’t go to culinary school. Have a masters degree in Food Science and Technology.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:19 am to
Thats pretty interesting pics there thanks for posting that. I know salt effects meat but I didn't know it would to that to ground beef. I have dry/wet brine chicken with salt but nothing ground up.

While we are on the subject sorta. What about salting and then freezing...does that stop the process?

Like if I wanted to season steaks or burgers, then vac pack and freeze in order to Sous Vide another day.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:34 am to
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I hopped on the smashburger train. My wife said it was the best burger she's ever had and it was with cheap 80/20 from Kroger.

I'd recommend that method:

Serious Eats - Smash Burger




I think I may do this tonight on my griddle.
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 10:51 am to
Right.

I am genuinely curious as to why you would say salt doesn't change the texture of a burger.

It is my opinion that it does.

The pictures provided by Serious Eats, along with some explanations they provide, appear to prove that it does change the texture.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 11:49 am to
I want to make the smash burgers. I have a couple of questions:

1) can I just simply grind up a chuck roast? I have a meat grinder.

2) will an enameled cast iron griddle heat up on an electric stove eye or should I stick to cast iron to cook the smash burgers?
Posted by SmokedBrisket2018
Member since Jun 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 1:56 pm to
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1) can I just simply grind up a chuck roast? I have a meat grinder.


Yes

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will an enameled cast iron griddle heat up on an electric stove eye or should I stick to cast iron to cook the smash burgers?



Enameled would probably work, never done burgers on mine. I would do regular cast iron though. Won't have to worry about scratching. I do smash burgers on my Blackstone griddle(cast iron) and they are great.
Posted by Earthquake 88
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:55 pm to
I went and toured the Ford mansion when I was a kid. Henry Ford traveled all over the country and never could find a burger as good as the one the chef made at his home. One day Mr. Ford asked him what was his secret and he laughed and said sir I grind up ribeye to make your hamburger.

So later when I was older and out on my own as a young adult I had my butcher take a perfectly amazing looking USDA Prime ribeye and grind it into hamburger meat. I went home and cooked it on a hot cast iron skillet and it was amazing.

I’m in the salt right before you are about to cook. I always sprinkle a little salt on steaks about 30 minutes before I cook them. It sinks into the meat to tenderize and pulls water to the surface. Works particularly well on cheap tough steaks. I’m pretty certain if you salt then make a patty you better get to cooking that patty immediately. Like someone said above it’s science.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 1/30/20 at 10:46 pm to
Grind complete. It’s looking pretty good imo, but I am it unchartered territory.

One pass via corse grind then one pass via medium grind. All of it semi frozen.





Posted by NOLAGT
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 7:36 am to
For anyone wondering they were fantastic. Went SV at 137 for 2hrs then hard sear with butter basting. S&P only. Not sure if it was the fresh ground, the ribeye or a combo of both (prob a sly) that made them so good but I will do again.







Posted by Jimmy2shoes
The South
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:05 am to
looks good...and healthy with all that butter
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