re: PuttaDaForkDown v2.0

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more like an unintentional refeed which gets the hormones back to normal inculding and most important resetting leptin levels.

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Are we talking carb refeeds to reset leptin? I don't understand how that works

Those turned out really well!! Thanks for posting.

I'm at 11 net carbs for the day. Yay.

I can't sleep. Had to get out of the house for awhile. Tomorrow is gonna suck. I wish there were places to walk in BR at night without getting mugged. I want to exercise.

What are y'all up to?

Well I finished my workout about an hour ago and frankly it sucked! I was shaking and weak, just plain sucked. I'll have a cheat meal this weekend but if it's like this again next week I am gonna have to just start backloading carbs. Only a small amount but still some for recovery.

Flax wrap & whipped cream, my friend. You've got this.

Junky I'll try to remember to link you some things this weekend on it. Essentially though if you are on extremely low cals like me and lazy are your leptin levels begin to dip and with us being on essentially protein only this process is sped up. Once it drops your body thinks it's starving and starts the process slowing things like metabolism down. Even one day of being in a caloric surplus can reverse this. And with low carb diets, eating carbs during this period helps quickly reverse the drop in leptin.

For 99% of the people in this thread it's pretty much pointless and only serves as a cheat meal. But once you are below a true dexa scan 20% bf and really when at about 15% and below this can help actually speed up true fat loss or help get through a plateau.

Most in this thread would be much better off just switching to a true fat fast for 7 to 10 days once weight plateaus.

Friday.

Feelin' good. Didn't weigh in, but I feel light and looked pretty thin.

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Gary Taubes is the author of The Case Against Sugar, Why We Get Fat, Good Calories, Bad Calories, Bad Science, and Nobel Dreams.

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I'm obviously a ketard and agree with Taubes, but just sharing this critical review against Taubes Case Against Sugar

so a quick insert from Lyle McDonald on these processes

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Explaining the systems involved in body weight regulation would truly take a book and all I really want to say is that there are a number of hormones including leptin, insulin, ghrelin, peptide YY (some of which you may have heard of and others you’ll think I’m making up) and others that “tell” your hypothalamus both how much you’re eating and how much body fat you’re carrying. All of these hormones respond both to food intake and how much weight/fat you have on you and act as the signals which tell the brain what’s going on so that it can make adjustments. A much more detailed description of this system is found in either my Bromocriptine booklet or in The Ultimate Diet 2.0. But, unless you’re just interested, you really don’t need to know the details. So when you start a diet, eating less and losing weight, your body notices it and starts to adjust metabolism downwards. Appetite/hunger tend to go up and many hormones change. In essence, this is the “starvation response” that everybody tends to talk about. Metabolism (and weight/fat loss) slow and you get so hungry that you tend to break your diet, frequently eating so much that you put the weight you lost right back on. I should mention right here that the degree to which this occurs depends a lot on the body fat level of the person in question. Someone at 10% body fat will tend to have far greater issues with this than someone who is at 40% body fat.

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Basically, leptin represents two different variables: how much bodyfat you're carrying and how much you're eating. That is, it acts as a signal to the rest of your body about your energy stores. I'll come back to this in a second. Like most hormones in the body, leptin has effects on most tissues in the body. Leptin receptors have been found all over the place, in the liver, skeletal muscle, in immune cells; you name a site in the body and there are probably leptin receptors there. There are also leptin receptors in the brain but I'll come back to that below. For now, let's look at a few of the effects that leptin has on other tissues in the body. In the liver, leptin tends to reduce insulin secretion from the beta-cells. In skeletal muscle, leptin promotes fat burning and tends to spare glucose (and therefore amino acid use). In fat cells, leptin may promote fat oxidation as well as making the fat cell somewhat insulin resistant. Leptin also affects immune cell function, decreasing leptin impairs the body's ability to mount an immune response. Now you know at least part of the reason you tend to get sick more when you diet. On and on it goes. An entire book could and should be written about leptin.

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go on my drive under Lyles folder and read UD2.0 and read Chapter 4. He explains everything in great detail. Also the Bromocriptine book starting in chapter 2 gives a crazy amount of info on how it effects the body.


and Rapid fatloss diet is where you see the biggest effects. Essentially for most people its 1g/per lbs in protein then only 20g fat, 20g carbs max per day. So for the average 200lbs male you are talking

Cals-1060
Protein-200g
Carbs-20g
Fat-20g

So as you can see, Hormones can crash easily do to the combo of extreme low cals, low fat and low carbs. Its a 3 headed sledge hammer on your bodies functions but it also has the same effect on body fat. So you just deal with it lol.

Honestly the only real differences between a true fat fast and the protein fast is the protein fast can be run longer than 10 days without being a threat to lean tissue where after 10 days on the fat fast, the studies from the 70s show you start to lose muscle with fat. Also the fat fast tends to not slow down metabolism or throw off the hormones as much.

Damn those look good.

For science purposes, post that recipe.