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re: Motwani's to reopen Sucre

Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:27 pm to
Posted by Tiger Attorney
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
20106 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:27 pm to
Take a guess who is helping then do that...
Posted by Whodatforlife21
Big Easy
Member since Apr 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 11/5/20 at 11:31 pm to
It’s the younger daughter in law of Mike Motwani who is listed as the owner.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 10:25 am to
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ake that trip to Gerald’s baw


Had them at my 40th.

I love Aaron's. Nothing beats fresh donuts from there with a side of cigarette smoke.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35469 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 10:25 am to
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I do not like Blue Dot.


I'm a cake donut guy. Try their wedding cake cake.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6075 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:20 am to
Sucre wasn’t really a bakery. It wasn’t really a pastry shop. It was a pretty space that had pretty good entrements (but few people ordered them), macarons at least when they opened and those were “new” to the states, and expensive chocolates. Had they maybe had a bread program, a breakfast pastry/coffee thing, could have had enough diversification of revenue.

They wanted to be a European style patisserie but it just didn’t translate stateside. Big space, quick expansion into multiple outlets and retail side, etc... a lot of things worked against it. The value equation never really worked in their favor. The glitter dust on everything was a bit overdone but it had some good years.

All of which is to say, why the hell would someone bring this back. Why not start whole cloth?
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 11:23 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131654 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:24 am to
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They wanted to be a European style patisserie but it just didn’t translate stateside.


I'm not sure how I could disagree with this more. They were packed, especially the Magazine one, at all times. They did absolutely excellent business.

They expanded to that STUPID French Quarter restaurant and had the sex assault allegation and those two things did them in.

If they had simply stayed with the Magazine and Metairie shops they would have been fine and continued to make money hand over fist.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6075 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:30 am to
Let me clarify a bit. Most European patisseries at least the platonic ideal of them are small operations. Barely enough room to stretch out. You grab and go. Items made by hand in the basement. Maybe 4-5 employees. Painting with a broad brush here but you get the idea.

Sucre had a massive workshop with an enormous amount of employees to scale for national growth (certainly on retail side like Whole Foods), the king cake blitz, etc... they never really turned a profit (most start ups dont) but they had this massive overhead.

Your restaurant can be packed to the gills but if the check average is approximately $10 and your overhead exceeds that, it’s gonna be hard to make it.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18360 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:32 am to
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Take a guess who is helping then do that


Toya in with the Twanis?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89339 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 11:35 am to
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Everybody can expect the same taste and quality, the same level of precision and seasonal flavors
Guess the king cake will still be dry as shite then
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10757 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:07 pm to
Metairie too? Would hate to see that cockroach infestation overtake the burbs......
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38367 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:22 pm to
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It’s the younger daughter in law of Mike Motwani who is listed as the owner.




too close of an association for me.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74473 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:43 pm to
I remember first hearing about Sucre via the BO blog. Seems like an eternity ago

Too many good places in the city for them to be relevant imo
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
102347 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Chez Pierre Bakery


goto for a Banh Mi and coconut shrimp
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:52 pm to
I will eat it.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 5:38 pm to
Sucre had a small bake operation with a limited selection, but the stuff was always either stale due to limited turnover or just plain terrible (if I wasn’t lazy, I’d find and post the pics of the two worst croissants I ever paid money for, from the Metairie location). They eventually dropped the croissant style stuff.

The molded chocolates were much touted, but also subpar. The coating chocolate was too waxy and thick, largely because they were made to be shipping friendly to support a mail order business.

The brand, touted as quality plus a fussy sort of style, ended up being all packaging and decor shellacked over mediocre flavors.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
6075 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 5:55 pm to
I remember at one point they bought this insane coffee machine. Essentially a Royle’s Royce of coffee machines. And they put in the Metairie store where no one who wanted to grab a quick coffee would go, since it was close to nothing but the mall.

It did pull one hell of an espresso tho.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79742 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:59 pm to
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All of which is to say, why the hell would someone bring this back. Why not start whole cloth?


It seemed to support the owners until one started raping workers and the other didn't want to give him half for killing the business.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:10 am to
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It did pull one hell of an espresso tho.

Hence my sampling of the pastry at mall location and experiencing the dreadful baked goods.

Thread reminds me of Sucre’s other big problem: mediocre gelato touted as “all natural” when it was clearly full of food coloring. Bright green pistachio, blue bubblegum, etc. Yet every bit of marketing copy, and the counter staff, insisted that “no artificial ingredients” were used. It wasn’t the ultra high end gelato it claimed to be—it was an average version, not even as good as the old school, slightly too sweet but small batch stuff from Brocatos.

All of this makes me appreciate a spot like La Petite Sophie in River Ridge. Tiny, basic shop; no frills. But truly excellent laminated pastries, including kouign amann and sweet or savory croissants....and not a speck of glitter or fancy packaging in sight. Not trying to appeal to the ‘gram crowd—just excellent food from 2 CIA trained chefs.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291626 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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otherwise I like them. Great for dates.



most un-bunchie thing ive ever read

you taking westbank girls out bro?
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