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Let’s talk oils and vinegars

Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:27 pm
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:27 pm
Oils like EVOO are important for cooking most Italian food and seafood, but why is it so hard to find good oil in the US? Has anyone here ever had real Italian EVOO and if so, how much better is it?

Vinegars: what are you favorite vinegars and uses for cooking? I like balsamic in almost any soup, stew, gumbo etc.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:40 pm to
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but why is it so hard to find good oil in the US?
its not
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:41 pm to
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balsamic in gumbo


wut
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:43 pm to
I get my oil from Quail and Olive


Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:45 pm to
This is really good. Owned by an ex uncle of mine. LINK
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Has anyone here ever had real Italian EVOO and if so, how much better is it?
Fresh olive oil has a spice to it. I enjoyed it.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:02 pm to
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wut


Any vinegar in a a soup/stew/gumbo sets off the flavors. Not a lot. Just before serving.
Posted by BlackenedOut
The Big Sleazy
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:28 pm to
California Ranch Olive Oil is very good and available most everywhere. Also like the Sicilian Flag brand. Buy it in the large container and pour it in to a cleaned out wine bottle with a stopper pourer. Helps keep it fresher (the residual in the container) longer (allegedly).
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 8:32 pm to
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Fresh olive oil has a spice to it.


Tastes different based on numerous factors much like wine: terroir, that years weather, time of harvest etc. some taste incredibly fruity, some grassy and vegetal, some spicy, some nutty
This post was edited on 7/21/20 at 8:33 pm
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:06 pm to
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what are you favorite vinegars and uses for cooking

It depends on the cuisine. We keep apple cider vinegar, rice vinegar, white wine vinegar, and balsamic in the cabinet.

All Purpose vinegar - apple cider vinegar
Rice vinegar - Asian food
White wine vinegar - delicate flavors
Balsamic - desserts, great on ice cream and fruit

Thinking about going down the rabbit hole to making my own.
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 9:24 pm to
That’s definitely true, but I can’t imagine enjoying the flavor profile of balsamic in there. I haven’t tried it, though, so maybe next time. Maybe.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
8596 posts
Posted on 7/21/20 at 10:22 pm to
I prefer RWV & substitute it in most recipes. I like making a simple dressing using RWV & lime juice. I prefer the unseasoned Marukan brand (green label). I typically do a 4:3 or 5:2 ratio depending on the intended purpose. Then just add a little sweetness (from either honey, agave, brown sugar or palm sugar), a neutral oil, and adjust the salt & pepper.

I also keep Lemon Vinegar on hand. It's a Korean brand & the only English on the bottle is the nutrition & ingredient label. It's pretty nice for tartar sauce & Caesar dressing.

One of my favorite vinegars to add to soups, stews, & braised items is Chinkiang Vinegar. I have the Gold Plum brand & if you like adding Balsamic to your gumbo, I would recommend getting a bottle of this. It is flavorful yet not as sweet as balsamic. A few drips also helps liven up fried rice & stir fried vegetables.

One last thing, if you like Balsamic vinegar, you should get a bottle of Sherry vinegar & try blending them. The sweetness of the bv is tamed by the dry sv, creating something new. It's a fun experiment.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 7/21/20 at 11:41 pm to
Very informative. Thank you!
Posted by DeltaHog
Member since Sep 2009
766 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:28 am to
almost every single "balsamic" on the shelves across the US are not real.


And there is no such thing as white balsamic.

I worked at the second oldest Lambrusco, balsamic maker outside Modena, Italy for a few weeks three years ago.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 9:53 am to
I get EVOO from Darioush. All EVOO should have a “harvest date” on the bottle. EVOO should not be used past 12 months of harvest date. Once opened, 4 to 6 weeks max shelf life.

Darioush
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:02 am to
I buy the Cali Olive Ranch brand, specifically the US product (not the blended imported "destinations" version). I like supporting the US olive industry. I will buy smaller bottles of EVOO to carry home when I travel to oil producing areas, though.

Vinegars on hand:
--ridiculously expensive balsamico carried home from Italy (well worth the cost & effort)
--cheap, industrial apple cider vinegar used for pickling and brining
--rice wine
--malt vinegar made in Orkney from locally grown barley; it's a very odd flavor profile, but I buy edible souvenirs when I travel
--cheap industrial red wine vinegar, used to make kalamata style olives out of my backyard olive crop
--Bragg's apple cider vinegar with the "mother" in the bottle (I like it on salads)

I keep thinking I'll buy a vinegar crock and make some myself....but then I think, do I really need ANOTHER kitchen project? LOL.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
5557 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:23 am to
I like this combo a lot. Good olive oil and the best balsamic I have ever tasted. I could drink it straight from the bottle.

Oil and Vinegar
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57789 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:42 am to
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Oils like EVOO are important for cooking most Italian food and seafood, but why is it so hard to find good oil in the US? Has anyone here ever had real Italian EVOO and if so, how much better is it?



Not to get picky, but can we stop calling it EVOO and call it olive oil. 99% of olive oil on the shelf is "extra virgin". EVOO sounds like a shitty bottled water in a fancy package.
This post was edited on 7/22/20 at 10:44 am
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
4422 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 10:52 am to
Pass Christian Olive oils are great!!!!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75197 posts
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:05 am to
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but can we stop calling it EVOO a


Rachel Ray started that shite on the food network 15 years ago, it's so annoying.
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