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re: Full N.O. City Council to Vote on Smoking Ban in All Restaurants, etc.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:52 am to Rohan2Reed
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:52 am to Rohan2Reed
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except to again point out that a majority rules system of governance goes against the intentions of our democracy.
this is more of an ethical dilemma then governmental
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Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:52 am to LNCHBOX
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I'll never understand how I'm the crazy person for using this as my deciding factor.
They are serving you alcohol. A poison.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:52 am to Zappas Stache
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Second hand smoke is classified as a carcinogen. So just like government doesn't allow business to construct buildings with asbestos, smoking should not be allowed in any business open to the public.
What should be done about the proximity of sidewalks (and their adjacent businesses) to roadways that feature thousands of cars whizzing by releasing harmful exhaust into the "public space?"
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:52 am to Salmon
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I don't care how harmful smoking is
Well I do.
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if I own a business and I want to allow smoking within that business, I should be able to do that
You should be able to allow murder in your business too.
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if I lose lnchs business because of it, that is my choice to make
I just don't agree with that because it is health related.
If you want to make some zany rule that everyone must wear a monocle and fubu jeans to get in your place, fine. But health related issues should be legally protected IMO.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:53 am to Rohan2Reed
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What should be done about the proximity of sidewalks (and their adjacent businesses) to roadways that feature thousands of cars whizzing by releasing harmful exhaust into the "public space?"
Duh, just kill everyone now so no one can ever get hurt again.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:55 am to Rohan2Reed
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yuppies trying to restrict the hours musicians can play music on public streets
Is this really yuppies? I thought it was older folk
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:55 am to LNCHBOX
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You should be able to allow murder in your business too.
damn right I should
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But health related issues should be legally protected IMO.
its a legal activity...
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:56 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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They are serving you alcohol. A poison.
Cigarettes kill way more people than alcohol.
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Approximately 443,000 people die prematurely from smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke each year.i According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention 24,518 people died of alochol,ii 17,774 died of AIDS,iii 34,485 died of car accidents, 39,147 died of drug use — legal and illegal — 16,799 died of murder and 36,909 died of suicide in 2009.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:56 am to LNCHBOX
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except to again point out that a majority rules system of governance goes against the intentions of our democracy.
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Uh, then how does voting work?
It elects a "majority" that in our representative democracy with a Bill of Rights still prohibits that majority from infringing on certain rights of the minority.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 11:57 am to Salmon
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damn right I should
And here is where you jump the shark. You know you don't believe that.
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its a legal activity...
For now.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:01 pm to VOR
I fully expect the N.O. city council to vote to ban all smoking in restaurants and bars going against many owners wishes. They are pretty anti-freedom.
I don't know why there needs to be an ordinance against smoking. Why not let the owners of said restaurants and bars choose whether or not smoking is allowed in their establishment? There is obviously a huge market for smoke free establishments.
I don't know why there needs to be an ordinance against smoking. Why not let the owners of said restaurants and bars choose whether or not smoking is allowed in their establishment? There is obviously a huge market for smoke free establishments.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:23 pm to GumboPot
hey what do you guys think about putting tomatoes in gumbo? 
i kid.
i kid.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:36 pm to Houma Sapien
quote:The acidity in the tomatoes tears up my stomach. I believe the city council should regulate the amount of tomatoes said business owner can put in to his gumbo so I'm not inconvenienced and have to find a place with tomatoless gumbo.
hey what do you guys think about putting tomatoes in gumbo?
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:41 pm to LNCHBOX
Don't tell me what I believe
This post was edited on 1/8/15 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:42 pm to Salmon
Don't make ridiculous claims and I won't. 
Posted on 1/8/15 at 12:53 pm to LNCHBOX
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Cigarettes kill way more people than alcohol.
How many from second hand smoke only?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:00 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
Tennessee banned smoking from all restaurants except ones that are 21 & over.
I hate the loss of freedom, but I love not smelling that shite when I go eat somewhere. frick smokers.
I hate the loss of freedom, but I love not smelling that shite when I go eat somewhere. frick smokers.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:00 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
According to the CDC, 2.5 million nonsmokers since 1964. So about 50,000 a year. That's too many.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:01 pm to LNCHBOX
how many of those from only being around smoke in bars?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:04 pm to Salmon
I don't know or care. That's 50k people every year that die unnecessarily.
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