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Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:34 am to LSUZombie
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Some dude coming in her looking for help for fastfood options and you steer him toward fried chicken. For frick sake
So you still believe the 1950s food pyramid.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:38 am to LNCHBOX
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So you still believe the 1950s food pyramid
We've jumped the shark if a run to Popeyes is the new standard.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:40 am to LSUZombie
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We've jumped the shark if a run to Popeyes is the new standard.
Still waiting for your explanation of why it is bad for you...
Just like I'm still waiting for where anyone said eat unlimited calories
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 9:41 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:42 am to LNCHBOX
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Just like I'm still waiting for where anyone said eat unlimited calories
Well to be fair, Mingo copied where he said you can't lose weight on 5000 calories and said 'yes you can".. when the vast majority of the normal population cannot
You also said that calorie counting "isn't real" (
) and that I only lose weight counting calories because I'm small. Which is untrue. Dogs, cats, and every human being and animal alive loses weight when consuming at a deficit. But I give you the benefit of the doubt that you mistyped and what you meant was that I don't lose weight on Baconators/that style of keto because I'm tiny. In which case, yes you are correct.
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:43 am to LouisianaLady
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Well to be fair, Mingo copied where he said you can't lose weight on 5000 calories and said 'yes you can".. when the vast majority of the normal population cannot
The vast majority of people also can eat more than you and lose weight, yet you were quoted as an example in this thread too. That goes both ways.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:43 am to LNCHBOX
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Still waiting for you explanation of why it is bad for you...
On why fried chicken isn't healthy for you?
A 3 piece from Popeyes has like 40 g of carbs, which defeat the purpose of keto anyway.
Removing the skin and breading from fried chicken defeats the purpose of fried chicken
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:44 am to LNCHBOX
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Well to be fair, Mingo copied where he said you can't lose weight on 5000 calories and said 'yes you can".. when the vast majority of the normal population cannot
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The vast majority of people also can eat more than you and lose weight, yet you were quoted as an example in this thread too. That goes both ways.
What kind of porn you posting?
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:46 am to LNCHBOX
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Still waiting for your explanation of why it is bad for you...
Uh, eating food fried in trans fats is widely considered unhealthy. In moderation, it's no big deal, but to pretend trans fats are good for you is silly. Your body absolutely needs fat though.
Apologies if this has already been pointed out. Just jumped on the last page curious to see how the thread has progressed.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:46 am to LSUZombie
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Yes.
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A 3 piece from Popeyes has like 40 g of carbs
Wrong. Breast and two legs is 32. Not necessarily a keto killer. But you also don't need to eat 3 pieces. You are trying to steer the conversation to places no one has taken it.
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Removing the skin and breading from fried chicken defeats the purpose of fried chicken
Another thing no one said to do in this thread
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:47 am to LouisianaLady
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The vast majority of people also can eat more than you and lose weight, yet you were quoted as an example in this thread too. That goes both ways.
Right, but you replied (I assume mistakenly mistyped) and said calories aren't real and I only lose weight on calorie counting because I'm small. Which is untrue. Everyone loses weight at a calorie deficit. Now whether they enjoy it or whether it is easy for them without the assistance of something like keto is another topic, and this depends on the person in question, their appetite, what they like to eat, etc.
Honestly, y'all should all stop talking past each other because you all believe the same thing and you're all just being intentionally obtuse. Comical, but silly and should stop.
Keto works fine, as does any other means of reaching a deficit. But they all only work if you are also at a deficit -- be it from pure consumption or from consumption + burning energy to reach that deficit.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:49 am to The Spleen
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Uh, eating food fried in trans fats is widely considered unhealthy. In moderation, it's no big deal, but to pretend trans fats are good for you is silly.
Hold on. Posts like this are just changing the narrative.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:49 am to LNCHBOX
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A 3 piece from Popeyes has like 40 g of carbs
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Wrong. Breast and two legs is 32
Oh come on
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:49 am to LouisianaLady
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d) and said calories aren't real and I only lose weight on calorie counting because I'm small.
No, you did not read my reply correctly
. My response was that your reasoning for not eating the fast food items was because no matter what they ae way too calorie heavy for you. That is not something that is typical because your calorie need are not close to typical.
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But they all only work if you are also at a deficit -- be it from pure consumption or from consumption + burning energy to reach that deficit.
No one has ever claimed otherwise.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:50 am to LSUZombie
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Oh come on
20% less is 20% less. And when you're talking about a diet that restricts carb intake, 8 of them is a big deal.
I don't expect any kind of intellectual honest from you, but at least try.
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:54 am to LNCHBOX
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I don't expect any kind of intellectual honest from you, but at least try.
Since we are talking dishonest, I guess you won't be porn spamming since it was referenced in here that calories don't matter
Posted on 7/14/21 at 9:58 am to LSUZombie
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Since we are talking dishonest, I guess you won't be porn spamming since it was referenced in here that calories don't matter
Why would I? He didn't say you should do that. You need to try to keep up with the actual claims instead of just making up whatever suits you.
So I will again ask you who in this thread has advocated for an unlimited diet consisting of fast foods?
Also, don't think I didn't notice you just completely duck the point of that post to try to attack me
This post was edited on 7/14/21 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:00 am to LNCHBOX
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So I will again ask you who in this thread has advocated for an unlimited diet consisting of fast foods?
Ah, I see it's your turn now to move the goalposts
Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:00 am to LSUZombie
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Ah, I see it's your turn now to move the goalposts
That was the question the whole time
No shock you will avoid it yet again. Posted on 7/14/21 at 10:00 am to LNCHBOX
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No, you did not read my reply correctly .
That is what you typed even if it isn't what you meant. I knew what you meant/what you were getting at, which is why I didn't reply to it. Several people did reply, though, because they read it how it was written... which was "calories aren't real, she loses weight that way because she weighs nothing". What you meant was, "Baconator style keto doesn't work for her because she is too small to consume that many calories".
Even taking me out of the equation, I think it is incredibly misleading when folks tell keto newbies "Yeah! Just eat fried chicken and baconators with no buns!" and don't follow that up with "Those are 800-1000 calories.. you need to plan the rest of your meals around it."
Nobody did that in conjunction with their recommendation in this thread until later, and I just don't get why not.
I've been on a large weight loss forum for 5 years now and the amount of people that come there upset because they've been doing these sorts of meals and not lost weight is astounding. Its okay to "sell" keto by mentioning the fun foods, but it is incomplete without the full picture.
On an average person who wants to lose weight and either doesn't work out or doesn't work out HARD, 1000 calories in one meal does take adjusting for the other meals to make it work. I don't know why that is always left out. Is it because people think the person won't join the keto club if they realize they still need to focus on a deficit? I just don't get it.. Don't we want to help the person?!
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