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re: Bocage Village cancels Dearman's lease
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:34 am to Giantkiller
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:34 am to Giantkiller
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Shady arse business practice to kick a tenant out after a fire.
The restaurants insurance policy probably has a clause to replace the loss revenue the owner will experience, but likely has no remedy for the landlord.
Should the landlord just take a revenue loss on the rent and NNN while the owner coordinates reconstruction? Is there a timeline on how quickly the reconstruction would have to occur? Does the duration of reconstruction count towards the lease term?
Is it cold? Yes. Does it make more business sense to just drop the tenant, reconstruct yourself, and then re-lease a new space? Yes.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:40 am to Giantkiller
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If there's more to the story, then the landlord needs to come out with it. But for now, it looks like a pretty big dick move.
Why does a landlord need to publicly state 100% why he is terminating a lease for one of his properties?
It's stated in the lease he can terminate because of a fire. A fire happened.
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For now, my business will follow Dearman's to a new location. I've certainly had the last of Portabello's, Beausoleil, LeMadeline, Carriages, and whatever else is still renting in that shithole.
Haha wow. This is a joke, right?
If not, nice emotional reaction like a child
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:47 am to Deactived
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The burgers were meh and the only thing good was the old feel to the place.
Could not agree more.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:48 am to MorbidTheClown
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i would boycott the rest of the businesses there.
Yeah, that's a reasonable response. Penalize those that had nothing to do with this. Good thinking...
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:50 am to LSUAfro
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Good thinking.
thanks
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:56 am to Artie Rome
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I dug the nostalgia, but nope.
This. And the fries were terrible.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:59 am to MorbidTheClown
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i would boycott the rest of the businesses there.
Not hard to do for myself. A fancy chocolate store, an extremely overpriced and limited grocery store, a Bella Bella location with the worst selection of all locations, an outdated frozen yogurt store.. and a restaurant that is fantastic, but my ex best friend works there so I can't go
Anyway, I don't see the point of this. Sounds like there were already issues with whether the lease was going to be kept.
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Is it cold? Yes. Does it make more business sense to just drop the tenant, reconstruct yourself, and then re-lease a new space? Yes.
Exactly.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:01 pm to LSUMJ
Dr. Hill has got a problem with the owner
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:23 pm to Giantkiller
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I'm doing just that. Shady arse business practice to kick a tenant out after a fire. If there's more to the story, then the landlord needs to come out with it. But for now, it looks like a pretty big dick move.
For now, my business will follow Dearman's to a new location. I've certainly had the last of Portabello's, Beausoleil, LeMadeline, Carriages, and whatever else is still renting in that shithole.
you'll show 'em. Punish the people who have nothing to do with the actions of the landlord. Way to go champ. Maybe if this catches on, we can shut down The Backpacker because the Midas on college closed.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:35 pm to LouisianaLady
Let me paraphrase the reasoning behind the lease termination.
"I can rent the space to some Bocage housewives who are convinced their idea for a children's hairbow store will make it for more than Dearman's paid."
"I can rent the space to some Bocage housewives who are convinced their idea for a children's hairbow store will make it for more than Dearman's paid."
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:44 pm to Artie Rome
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One of the best burgers in Baton Rouge.
Nope.
I dug the nostalgia, but nope.
This
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:44 pm to Trout Bandit
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I don't frequent Dearman's often but I have a bit of butthurt laced with nostalgia about Dearman's not being in it's current location. I hope they can find another location that fits their needs.
There was something a bit contrived about their current set up -- an old drug store soda fountain type deal, where everything but the soda fountain deal had been removed around it. But, at least it was in its historic actual setting, so there was something somewhat authentic about it.
It would be a complete contrivance, I would think, to try to replicate that elsewhere and still use the "Dearman's" name.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:04 pm to LSUMJ
quote:This is the wild card of the situation. The fire may be beneficial to one, or even both as an alternative to the lease expiring. The tenant has an opportunity to find a new location while its business interruption insurance provides benefits and casualty insurance covers its furniture, fixtures and equipment. The landlord gets to look for a new tenant while mixing tenant specific improvements with the repairs paid for by insurance.
But even before the fire, Dearman’s future at Bocage Village was questionable. Last fall, Richardson sent a letter to Van Gelder informing him the lease was set to expire in June. Van Gelder says he spent weeks making minor improvements to the restaurant, including new paint and wainscoting, and was under the impression the lease would be extended.
Richardson says he can’t say if the lease would have been extended had the fire not occurred, adding, “I don’t know, I didn’t get that far.” But he says, “This is something we have all been talking about since October.”
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I went to Dearman's periodically. The kids enjoy going. I like the burgers fine. Nothing that magical about them, but the atmosphere was fun and nostalgic. The bathrooms, however, were not fun are well kept. I think they could make it again in another location with somewhat of a replica of the inside. Won't be the same, but if the location is good, it could work.
I only go there and to Calvin's in that area, for the most part. I don't think boycotting other businesses who have no part in this, as far as we know, makes any sense.
I'd like to know the full story because it sounds like this shouldn't have been a big surprise to Dearman's from what the article says. Why fix it up after the fire if they aren't going to be able to reopen, though?
I only go there and to Calvin's in that area, for the most part. I don't think boycotting other businesses who have no part in this, as far as we know, makes any sense.
I'd like to know the full story because it sounds like this shouldn't have been a big surprise to Dearman's from what the article says. Why fix it up after the fire if they aren't going to be able to reopen, though?
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:10 pm to Deactived
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Haha wow. This is a joke, right?
If not, nice emotional reaction like a child
I don't think it's an emotional reaction. I think it's pretty calculated, and a completely reasonable way to direct my displeasure with the actions of a landlord so as to pressure them into changing their policy. You might have the right to terminate a lease for any reason, but it's kind of a service to the public to talk about why you're doing it. Therefore you keep all your other tenants happy and without fear their business won't be hurt with the hastiness of your actions.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:15 pm to Giantkiller
Hold on. Was this contract forced to be signed?
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:19 pm to Giantkiller
Let me get this out for all the posters in this particular thread
Who's to say that Dearmans hasn't kept up their end of an agreement that wasn't necessarily lease breaking and this gave the landlord an out? Maybe his equipment needed upgrading or maintenance and that is what caused the fire.
I love how people's true colors come out when something like this happens:
"That rich big bad landlord just wants more money from another tenant blah blah blah." or "I don't know ANY facts AT ALL but no way could this be Dearmans fault."
Who's to say that Dearmans hasn't kept up their end of an agreement that wasn't necessarily lease breaking and this gave the landlord an out? Maybe his equipment needed upgrading or maintenance and that is what caused the fire.
I love how people's true colors come out when something like this happens:
"That rich big bad landlord just wants more money from another tenant blah blah blah." or "I don't know ANY facts AT ALL but no way could this be Dearmans fault."
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:19 pm to Giantkiller
Doubt your boycott works. People who are already loyal to the other businesses there will stay with them. La Madeleine may even see an increase in business since people who grabbed a quick lunch at Dearman's may just run in there for a meal or grab some chicken salad from Calvin's.
Do you think a large percentage of Dearman's customers went to the other businesses while in the area? I only went to Calvin's and never when I ate at Dearman's or vice versa.
Do you think a large percentage of Dearman's customers went to the other businesses while in the area? I only went to Calvin's and never when I ate at Dearman's or vice versa.
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:22 pm to tigerinthebueche
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you'll show 'em. Punish the people who have nothing to do with the actions of the landlord. Way to go champ. Maybe if this catches on, we can shut down The Backpacker because the Midas on college closed.
Remember when Hank Saurage just up and decided it was time to throw Highland Coffee's out of the building he just purchased for no reason? And it looked a little shady that the grandson of a local coffee magnate (whom also has a seat on the board of directors of said coffee magnate) could just do something because it made business sense, but took little to no stock in how it would publicly look? For me, Dearman's had a folksy vibe in a part of town filled with ridiculous boutique fair. There's nothing wrong with suggesting on a message board that the patron's voice can be heard by saying they won't be back in the shopping center. If those companies want to keep my business, they should urge the building owner to renew Dearman's lease. Otherwise look like they're engaging in business with an a-hole and they risk looking like they support the decision. If that's the way they want to go about it, then deal with the consequences.
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