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re: Bocage Village cancels Dearman's lease

Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:34 am to
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
23149 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Shady arse business practice to kick a tenant out after a fire.


The restaurants insurance policy probably has a clause to replace the loss revenue the owner will experience, but likely has no remedy for the landlord.

Should the landlord just take a revenue loss on the rent and NNN while the owner coordinates reconstruction? Is there a timeline on how quickly the reconstruction would have to occur? Does the duration of reconstruction count towards the lease term?

Is it cold? Yes. Does it make more business sense to just drop the tenant, reconstruct yourself, and then re-lease a new space? Yes.
Posted by LSUMJ
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Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:37 am to
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:40 am to
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If there's more to the story, then the landlord needs to come out with it. But for now, it looks like a pretty big dick move.


Why does a landlord need to publicly state 100% why he is terminating a lease for one of his properties?

It's stated in the lease he can terminate because of a fire. A fire happened.

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For now, my business will follow Dearman's to a new location. I've certainly had the last of Portabello's, Beausoleil, LeMadeline, Carriages, and whatever else is still renting in that shithole.



Haha wow. This is a joke, right?

If not, nice emotional reaction like a child
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103488 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

The burgers were meh and the only thing good was the old feel to the place.


Could not agree more.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:48 am to
quote:

i would boycott the rest of the businesses there.

Yeah, that's a reasonable response. Penalize those that had nothing to do with this. Good thinking...
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73564 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:50 am to
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Good thinking.


thanks
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I dug the nostalgia, but nope.



This. And the fries were terrible.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
82711 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 11:59 am to
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i would boycott the rest of the businesses there.



Not hard to do for myself. A fancy chocolate store, an extremely overpriced and limited grocery store, a Bella Bella location with the worst selection of all locations, an outdated frozen yogurt store.. and a restaurant that is fantastic, but my ex best friend works there so I can't go

Anyway, I don't see the point of this. Sounds like there were already issues with whether the lease was going to be kept.

quote:

Is it cold? Yes. Does it make more business sense to just drop the tenant, reconstruct yourself, and then re-lease a new space? Yes.


Exactly.
This post was edited on 3/9/16 at 12:02 pm
Posted by King Dongg
Lower 9th ward
Member since Mar 2016
157 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:01 pm to
Dr. Hill has got a problem with the owner
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37722 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:23 pm to
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I'm doing just that. Shady arse business practice to kick a tenant out after a fire. If there's more to the story, then the landlord needs to come out with it. But for now, it looks like a pretty big dick move.

For now, my business will follow Dearman's to a new location. I've certainly had the last of Portabello's, Beausoleil, LeMadeline, Carriages, and whatever else is still renting in that shithole.



you'll show 'em. Punish the people who have nothing to do with the actions of the landlord. Way to go champ. Maybe if this catches on, we can shut down The Backpacker because the Midas on college closed.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19824 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:35 pm to
Let me paraphrase the reasoning behind the lease termination.

"I can rent the space to some Bocage housewives who are convinced their idea for a children's hairbow store will make it for more than Dearman's paid."

Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7629 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

One of the best burgers in Baton Rouge.


Nope.

I dug the nostalgia, but nope.



This
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109630 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I don't frequent Dearman's often but I have a bit of butthurt laced with nostalgia about Dearman's not being in it's current location. I hope they can find another location that fits their needs.



There was something a bit contrived about their current set up -- an old drug store soda fountain type deal, where everything but the soda fountain deal had been removed around it. But, at least it was in its historic actual setting, so there was something somewhat authentic about it.

It would be a complete contrivance, I would think, to try to replicate that elsewhere and still use the "Dearman's" name.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:04 pm to
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But even before the fire, Dearman’s future at Bocage Village was questionable. Last fall, Richardson sent a letter to Van Gelder informing him the lease was set to expire in June. Van Gelder says he spent weeks making minor improvements to the restaurant, including new paint and wainscoting, and was under the impression the lease would be extended.

Richardson says he can’t say if the lease would have been extended had the fire not occurred, adding, “I don’t know, I didn’t get that far.” But he says, “This is something we have all been talking about since October.”
This is the wild card of the situation. The fire may be beneficial to one, or even both as an alternative to the lease expiring. The tenant has an opportunity to find a new location while its business interruption insurance provides benefits and casualty insurance covers its furniture, fixtures and equipment. The landlord gets to look for a new tenant while mixing tenant specific improvements with the repairs paid for by insurance.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 1:06 pm to
I went to Dearman's periodically. The kids enjoy going. I like the burgers fine. Nothing that magical about them, but the atmosphere was fun and nostalgic. The bathrooms, however, were not fun are well kept. I think they could make it again in another location with somewhat of a replica of the inside. Won't be the same, but if the location is good, it could work.

I only go there and to Calvin's in that area, for the most part. I don't think boycotting other businesses who have no part in this, as far as we know, makes any sense.

I'd like to know the full story because it sounds like this shouldn't have been a big surprise to Dearman's from what the article says. Why fix it up after the fire if they aren't going to be able to reopen, though?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24495 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Haha wow. This is a joke, right?

If not, nice emotional reaction like a child


I don't think it's an emotional reaction. I think it's pretty calculated, and a completely reasonable way to direct my displeasure with the actions of a landlord so as to pressure them into changing their policy. You might have the right to terminate a lease for any reason, but it's kind of a service to the public to talk about why you're doing it. Therefore you keep all your other tenants happy and without fear their business won't be hurt with the hastiness of your actions.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138163 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:15 pm to
Hold on. Was this contract forced to be signed?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:19 pm to
Let me get this out for all the posters in this particular thread

Who's to say that Dearmans hasn't kept up their end of an agreement that wasn't necessarily lease breaking and this gave the landlord an out? Maybe his equipment needed upgrading or maintenance and that is what caused the fire.
I love how people's true colors come out when something like this happens:
"That rich big bad landlord just wants more money from another tenant blah blah blah." or "I don't know ANY facts AT ALL but no way could this be Dearmans fault."
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:19 pm to
Doubt your boycott works. People who are already loyal to the other businesses there will stay with them. La Madeleine may even see an increase in business since people who grabbed a quick lunch at Dearman's may just run in there for a meal or grab some chicken salad from Calvin's.

Do you think a large percentage of Dearman's customers went to the other businesses while in the area? I only went to Calvin's and never when I ate at Dearman's or vice versa.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24495 posts
Posted on 3/9/16 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

you'll show 'em. Punish the people who have nothing to do with the actions of the landlord. Way to go champ. Maybe if this catches on, we can shut down The Backpacker because the Midas on college closed.


Remember when Hank Saurage just up and decided it was time to throw Highland Coffee's out of the building he just purchased for no reason? And it looked a little shady that the grandson of a local coffee magnate (whom also has a seat on the board of directors of said coffee magnate) could just do something because it made business sense, but took little to no stock in how it would publicly look? For me, Dearman's had a folksy vibe in a part of town filled with ridiculous boutique fair. There's nothing wrong with suggesting on a message board that the patron's voice can be heard by saying they won't be back in the shopping center. If those companies want to keep my business, they should urge the building owner to renew Dearman's lease. Otherwise look like they're engaging in business with an a-hole and they risk looking like they support the decision. If that's the way they want to go about it, then deal with the consequences.
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