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re: Anyone know when Abita Strawberry comes out?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:24 am to notiger1997
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:24 am to notiger1997
I guess I'm ignorant on the subject but why do they deserve the criticism or what needs so much improvement ?
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Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:30 am to Tom Selleck
Read the post above mine. They are just boring and conservative and seem to be more concerned with the status quo, instead of shaking things up and taking some chances.
NOLA is fairly new and is kicking their arse with quality beers.
People who rate beers and people who know their shite really don't think that highly of Abita.
Again, more power to them for becoming successful as they have, but give us something better.
NOLA is fairly new and is kicking their arse with quality beers.
People who rate beers and people who know their shite really don't think that highly of Abita.
Again, more power to them for becoming successful as they have, but give us something better.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:33 am to Tom Selleck
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I guess I'm ignorant on the subject but why do they deserve the criticism or what needs so much improvement ?
The criticism is that Abita is perfectly fine and content with brewing 4-6% abv beers that don't really challenge or explore new ideas or styles. They are "gateway beers" into the craft beer world. Once you have a fine crafted IPA or an Imperial Stout it's hard to go back to Abita and say "this beer is great".
Again not shitting on Abita, it's a plain jane brewery with plain jane beers. Beers to move you away from BMC.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:37 am to notiger1997
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They are just boring and conservative and seem to be more concerned with the status quo, instead of shaking things up and taking some chances.
Honest question. If they have a cult following for Strawberry, sell the shite out of Turbo Dog, Purple Haze and Amber and have their niche beers with Jockamo, MG Bock, Andygator,Pecan and Satsuma....why would they shake things up? They are probably making boatloads of money doing what they do.
Not arguing one way or another, but I just wonder why people bitch at them for not doing "new" things when they likely started this to make money...and they apparently are doing that well.
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:43 am to lsuhunt555
Craft beer shouldn't be about the money though. I read somewhere that Abita is one of the top 15 breweries in the US. Good, great for them. Just like BMC though, they make all this money because they pump out easy to drink, light, boring beers. If that's what you like, and that's all you drink then no problem. I'm not here to tell you what you can and cannot drink.
If you want to try something different, and with more flavor, then you have to look elsewhere than Abita.
If you want to try something different, and with more flavor, then you have to look elsewhere than Abita.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:44 am to Fap-n-Nap
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Dammit, Salmon said not really. Obviously that invalidates your opinion Lee.
this
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:48 am to Dav
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Craft beer shouldn't be about the money though.
Says the guy with a job who likes beer as a hobby.
I get what you're saying, but when you start relying on beer making to pay the bills it becomes about the money. I 100% agree that if you want to try something with a more flavor, maybe you shouldnt use Abita, but my next question is this. If you know this, why do people insist on shitting on Abita? If you are a big Craft beer person, should'nt you just avoid Abita?
It's like saying you are a burger aficianado yet constantly bitching about McDonalds.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:50 am to lsuhunt555
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If you know this, why do people insist on shitting on Abita? If you are a big Craft beer person, should'nt you just avoid Abita?
maybe because being from LA, we all want the most well known craft beer brewery from LA to be more than just average. It's frustrating.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:51 am to lsuhunt555
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I just wonder why people bitch at them for not doing "new" things when they likely started this to make money
This thread has completely derailed
Regardless, doing new things and making money aren't mutually exclusive -- in fact, you could make a good case for one leading to the other. If Abita were to broaden their line-up, hell, even if they were to just add an IPA that was actually good, I'd buy it occasionally just out of some pseudo-LA loyalty. And if they'd put out other solid brews, other craft beers enthusiasts would likely follow suit. Expanding their line-up doesn't mean they have to halt production of beers that already have a large following, and it could mean increased profitability. Everyone wins.
On some level I just feel annoyed with Abita. Their product is marketed as if it's high quality craft beer, but it pales in comparison to many other readily available craft beers. I wish they did more. And that's why (I think, anyway) people crap on Abita.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:52 am to lsuhunt555
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It's like saying you are a burger aficianado yet constantly bitching about McDonalds.
That nailed it. I love how a thread asking when a beer comes out turns into a shite show. Gotta love this board sometimes.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:53 am to Matisyeezy
look at Saint Arnolds
most of their regular line-up is average, but they still put out some great seasonal or limited production brews. This is all we are asking from Abita.
most of their regular line-up is average, but they still put out some great seasonal or limited production brews. This is all we are asking from Abita.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:55 am to AFtigerFan
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Gotta love this board sometimes.
Yeah, it's a shame that people are passionate about subjects such as this and want to debate it on a food and drink board.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:57 am to Matisyeezy
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hell, even if they were to just add an IPA that was actually good
yes, Jockamo is so horribly bad, its a shame with the cool name they have for it. wish they would just rework the recipe
Posted on 1/30/13 at 10:58 am to lsuhunt555
When did I ever say I was shitting or dogging on Abita? I drink their stuff from time to time and (like every year) I'm looking forward to their strawberry release but I don't crave or actively pursue it. Given the choice between Abita and NOLA I would take NOLA every time. That's just my prefrence.
Clearly these breweries need to make money and Abita has shown it's great at marketing and selling it's product. Is it wrong though to ask for alittle more creativity then producing the same 4-6 abv range beer? With all this cash maybe they could try a Imperial stout or a DIPA. They probably won't though because those beers don't sell as well as your light lagers do.
Think I've commented on this topic enough, I'm starting to repeat myself I'm out.
Clearly these breweries need to make money and Abita has shown it's great at marketing and selling it's product. Is it wrong though to ask for alittle more creativity then producing the same 4-6 abv range beer? With all this cash maybe they could try a Imperial stout or a DIPA. They probably won't though because those beers don't sell as well as your light lagers do.
Think I've commented on this topic enough, I'm starting to repeat myself
I'm out.This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:03 am to lsuhunt555
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I get what you're saying, but when you start relying on beer making to pay the bills it becomes about the money.
but who do you think would be more interested in making the best beer they can, the brewer that starts out with the idea of making great beer, or the idea of making lots of money? See also Parish v Tin Roof
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If you are a big Craft beer person, should'nt you just avoid Abita?
most people that are big time beer geeks probably do, except to try something new.
Like I said earlier though, I pick up some strawberry every year because I like how easy it goes down and how refreshing it is when its eleventy-hundred degrees out and I just finished mowing
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:04 am to Salmon
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look at Saint Arnolds
for me here in Lake Chas, Endeavor is the freshest DIPA I can get on a regular basis, and I enjoy it. Texas has more options with Karbach, Southern Star and Jester King. I love my trips to Hou to stock up
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:10 am to Salmon
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maybe because being from LA, we all want the most well known craft beer brewery from LA to be more than just average. It's frustrating.
I agree with this
I know I'm not writing any new thought or revalation, but in general, folks in Louisiana are extremely proud of the culture that exists that celebrates good food and drink and takes pride in "local"
That's why Abita has done so well for so long, because it's Louisiana's beer, not because it's a great beer. Beer enthusiasts in Louisiana already know that NOLA and Parish put out better products, they just simply don't have the capacity yet to compete with Abita
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:25 am to notiger1997
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Yeah, it's a shame that people are passionate about subjects such as this and want to debate it on a food and drink board.
If you took the time to read the entire thread, I mentioned that some people post legitimate complaints and explain why they have issues with Abita. There are some really good reasons for it. But when someone just says (like a poster earlier), "it's crap" and offers no insight whatsoever, how is that debating anything? It's someone trying too hard. If that's all someone can add to a thread, then just stay out of it.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:35 am to Salmon
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maybe because being from LA, we all want the most well known craft beer brewery from LA to be more than just average. It's frustrating.
This is it in a nutshell for me. While not hard to find up here, Abita is not exactly everywhere. I want them to have good, interesting beers because they represent my home in a way. I have friends that bring Abita to my parties up here because they know it's a Louisiana beer. But honestly, other than Amber, I don't care much for many of their offerings.
I found Pecan to be one of the worst beers I've ever had, and Strawberry, IMO, despite its apparent love-in here, tastes like a watered down wine cooler. Other offerings that I have had from them are just meh. There are just so many other beers out there that I would reach for first, and I find it to be kind of sad.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 11:36 am to AFtigerFan
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it's crap" and offers no insight whatsoever,
Well, it's blatant and concise, but I would not say that it offers no insight.
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