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re: Against open-concept kitchens
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:24 pm to LSUBoo
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:24 pm to LSUBoo
I do agree that open concepts do have their draw backs, especially if it opens into a great room or family room
I imagine it would get frustrating if you are trying to cook and the kids are screaming/watching TV/playing video games loudly, or if your trying to watch TV and your wife is in the kitchen right next to you banging pans around
I imagine it would get frustrating if you are trying to cook and the kids are screaming/watching TV/playing video games loudly, or if your trying to watch TV and your wife is in the kitchen right next to you banging pans around
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Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:25 pm to Oenophile Brah
Yeah I agree he makes some good points, specifically dispelling per his own opinions why some people claim to love open-concept. I like the social aspect it allows .. really perfect for times when you have a bunch of people over to watch a football game and you can be included while you're cooking/prepping. One downside is if you don't have a good fan/hood system you risk smoking and/or smelling up your entire house, rather than it being contained to one room. Also I've noticed that some open-concept kitchens are located where you don't have direct access to the backyard .. which I like having in a kitchen, it would be a must for me.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:25 pm to Rohan2Reed
I'm more against single basin sinks. How people function with those things I'll never know. Take all of the dirty dishes and put them on the counter? How do you get to the garbage disposal?
They look cool, but every single time I'm at someone's house with a big single basin apron sink I have to shake my head. I've had one and it didn't function for me at all.
I'm not a soaker either, so it's not for that.
They look cool, but every single time I'm at someone's house with a big single basin apron sink I have to shake my head. I've had one and it didn't function for me at all.
I'm not a soaker either, so it's not for that.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:27 pm to Rohan2Reed
I want a "more" open concept, but not fully open.
We are hoping to knock down the wall between kitchen and den, making it a larger kitchen with a small seating area. We will still have a dining room and living room that are open to each other, but separate from the kitchen & den (future kitchen/keeping room).
I like keeping the noise separate. When I am working in the kitchen alone, I like loud music. My hard-of-hearing-cuz-he's-old husband blares the surround sound for his big screen TV. We need the separation.
Had 2 couples over for dinner a week or so ago. I tried to direct them into the living/dining room or outside to the patio. They stuck to the kitchen, no amount of directing them would change it. So I want that bigger kitchen.
We are hoping to knock down the wall between kitchen and den, making it a larger kitchen with a small seating area. We will still have a dining room and living room that are open to each other, but separate from the kitchen & den (future kitchen/keeping room).
I like keeping the noise separate. When I am working in the kitchen alone, I like loud music. My hard-of-hearing-cuz-he's-old husband blares the surround sound for his big screen TV. We need the separation.
Had 2 couples over for dinner a week or so ago. I tried to direct them into the living/dining room or outside to the patio. They stuck to the kitchen, no amount of directing them would change it. So I want that bigger kitchen.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:30 pm to Rohan2Reed
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But how many people can conceivably participate without it being overly crowded? Obviously depends on the size of your kitchen, if it's a closed off one. But I don't think you necessarily need an open-concept design to allow people to gather around and do things together/help out.
My new kitchen opens to a 35+ ft long back porch, on purpose. I can stand at the kitchen sink and look through a huge window to a pasture beyond the yard, or turn my head to the left and look through interior french doors to see the TV beyond the dining area. Beaucoup people can fit into the general kitchen area, and with the french doors open, it can flow into the living room. It's an open plan that retains some "closure" thanks to the french doors.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:30 pm to Gaston
I think an open, island style kitchen with stove/oven, the sink, and the fridge being located all in different sections of the kitchen is hard to top.
Being those are high traffic areas it's nice to have those spread out and not right next to each other. A butlers pantry between the kitchen and living space also helps to remove he crowdedness of a kitchen.
Being those are high traffic areas it's nice to have those spread out and not right next to each other. A butlers pantry between the kitchen and living space also helps to remove he crowdedness of a kitchen.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:31 pm to Darla Hood
The only negative to my open kitchen is my loud dishwasher. And, that could be solved by buying a quieter dishwasher. Obviously this is a personal preference issue. But, I thought every point the writer tries to make was extremely stupid. It was almost like she was just trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:33 pm to hashtag
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It was almost like she was just trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary.
It is just some NYC hipster trying to feel better about living in a 500 sq ft apartment with a galley kitchen by mocking the suburban lifestyle
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:33 pm to hungryone
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My new kitchen opens to a 35+ ft long back porch, on purpose. I can stand at the kitchen sink and look through a huge window to a pasture beyond the yard, or turn my head to the left and look through interior french doors to see the TV beyond the dining area. Beaucoup people can fit into the general kitchen area, and with the french doors open, it can flow into the living room. It's an open plan that retains some "closure" thanks to the french doors.
That sounds like a fantastic space.
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But, I thought every point the writer tries to make was extremely stupid. It was almost like she was just trying to be contrary for the sake of being contrary.
The writer is a male, fwiw.
This post was edited on 8/13/13 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:36 pm to Darla Hood
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I want a "more" open concept, but not fully open.
Yeah I would like something like this.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:42 pm to Rohan2Reed
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One downside is if you don't have a good fan/hood system you risk smoking and/or smelling up your entire house, rather than it being contained to one room.
You have to play to your strengths. If you have a bad ventilation system I would suggest not cooking something that smokes a lot... or doing the majority of the cooking before guests arrive. Or not having guests over if it gets that bad
Open kitchen is most certainly the way to go when done right.
Open kitchen with access to living room and kitchen table with formal dining room separated.
This post was edited on 8/13/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:45 pm to hiltacular
The fact is....that open or closed....you can still have a bad arse kitchen. Regardless of the style, the kitchen will always be the heart of my house!
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:46 pm to Rohan2Reed
With young kids, an open kitchen is almost a must. You can cook and still keep an eye one the kids playing in the family room. I guess the only drawback is that sometimes it's hard to keep them out of the kitchen, but it's not like any kitchen has doors to do this to begin with.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:48 pm to Rohan2Reed
open is awesome grew up with the "surprise, reveal" and its over rated
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:48 pm to Ric Flair
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With young kids, an open kitchen is almost a must. You can cook and still keep an eye one the kids playing in the family room. I guess the only drawback is that sometimes it's hard to keep them out of the kitchen, but it's not like any kitchen has doors to do this to begin with.
Somebody in the comments section of the article made an interesting point. They said what can happen is because kids don't want to be under the watchful eye of their parents, they will find another room in which to play in an open-concept living room/kitchen layout.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 3:54 pm to Rohan2Reed
I would think the majority would prefer an open concept kitchen vs something closed and this has to factor into resale value.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 4:19 pm to hiltacular
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One downside is if you don't have a good fan/hood system you risk smoking and/or smelling up your entire house, rather than it being contained to one room.
You have to play to your strengths. If you have a bad ventilation system I would suggest not cooking something that smokes a lot... or doing the majority of the cooking before guests arrive. Or not having guests over if it gets that bad
This is SUCH a critical point...most entry level recirculating vent fans are garbage, and the usual externally vented ones are not much better. The higher end GE vent hoods only handle 350 or so CFM: utterly useless for frying, wok cooking, or anything stinky/smoky. See, building codes in cold-climate places using interior furnace heat require "make up air" to be introduced into the house if a higher CFM hood is used. MUA is not required here, where most heaters are in the attic & plenty of outside air enters the house.
So you have to go up in width/size to get sufficient CFM for a "real" stove's BTU output or for smoky, messy, or greasy cooking. The mainstream brands' hoods just don't cut it.
Don't get me started about those useless microwave/vent hood combos. They're about as useful as an Easy Bake oven.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 4:27 pm to Oenophile Brah
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He seems to miss the fact that dinner parties are the extreme minority of the usage of your kitchen. You don't cook for a group 4 nights a week, but you may cook for your family 6 nights a week. This is an common time for family bonding.
I want my kitchen to function correctly 80% of the time over the 20%. IMO.
Kind of what I was thinking too. I do like his point about the reveal, but I'm also thinking about how pretty much M-Thursday the kitchen is more about functionality and having an open design allows a loose, casual cooking environment so you can chat with your SO, kids, family, or watch tv, etc.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 4:29 pm to hungryone
I don't know all the technicalities of exhausts, but mine is great. Sucks up everything and takes it out. I don't notice too much in the way of smells by the next morning after grilling or frying in the kitchen and I don't smell anything in the rest of the house. I fry, bake, grill, blacken or whatever I like in my kitchen.
My kitchen is large but is not open to the rest of the house other than through a door to the living dining area. I like it that way. It houses plenty of people if need be, but it keeps the strong smells out of the rest of the house not that I care too much about that. I live in my house. A big part of living here is cooking here. My cooking smells good. Even the next the day.
My kitchen is large but is not open to the rest of the house other than through a door to the living dining area. I like it that way. It houses plenty of people if need be, but it keeps the strong smells out of the rest of the house not that I care too much about that. I live in my house. A big part of living here is cooking here. My cooking smells good. Even the next the day.
Posted on 8/13/13 at 4:39 pm to Rohan2Reed
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Against open-concept kitchens
Couldn't be For Closed-Concept Kitchen??
Always negative!!!
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