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re: A certain dining guide written by a tire company is sniffing around NOLA

Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Richard Grayson
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:13 am to
New Orleans has some great food and some amazing restaurants. No doubt.

But when you eat at a place like Daniel in New York or French Landry in Napa you understand that multi-starred Michelin restaurants are on a whole nother level.

New Orleans for sure has the ingredients, chefs, and ability to create such an experience, but very very few that I've been to could earn a star as they stand right now, IMHO.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 11:16 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:16 am to
If a place like Peter Lugers can hold on to their star as long as they did then a place like Galatoires or Antonine would get a star if the guide came here.
Posted by AbitaFan08
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:21 am to
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But when you eat at a place like Daniel in New York or French Landry in Napa you understand that multi-starred Michelin restaurants are on a whole nother level.


You just mentioned a two star and a three star former best restaurant in the world. Of course New Orleans doesn’t have the latter, and I’d say there may be one or two that are on the cusp of a two star.

I have eaten at many one star restaurants, and they were really damn good. I’ve also been to restaurants in New Orleans that equal or even better some of them.

No one is saying the next Osteria Francescana is in New Orleans. But I really do believe there are some restaurants that if you picked them up and moved them to a Michelin city would be in contention for a one star.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:28 am to
I have been to a bunch of 1 star places that I consider to be excallent, but unpretentious restaurants with delicious food. I think New Orleans would have a good number of those.

I have been to quite a few 3 stars and 2 stars aspiring to be 3 stars. These feature elaborale, multi course and super expensive meals with service worthy of royalty in a castle.
The two best meals I have ever had were at Guy Savoy in Paris. Also in Paris were LeCinq and Taillevent (back in the glory days). Le Grand Vefour was a 2 star but it looks like a palace and we sat at Napoleon and Josephine's table. I have also been to Stiereck in Vienna and Jean Georges and Eleven Madison Park in New York.


New Orleans has nothing that comes close to rivaling those places. I love Commander's Palace, but they are in the minor leagues compared to Michelin 2 and 3 star restaurants.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:35 am to
Have you been to Chemin à la Mer yet?

Figured they would have been forced into the position to step up service.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:36 am to
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I have been to a bunch of 1 star places that I consider to be excallent, but unpretentious restaurants with delicious food. I think New Orleans would have a good number of those.


I believe New Orleans would have double digit 1 stars and a bunch of bib gourmands
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74935 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:45 am to
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 You can be sitting in a place like LPG and have a couple with coat and tie next to a yat with PFGs and New Balances.
Look Cap, I wear my nice Sperry Topsiduhs when I go out in my long sleeve PFG.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:52 am to
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New Orleans has too many apathetic hipster waiters whose ironic handlebar mustaches and contrived aloofness would likely score the restaurant no points with inspectors. It would be a stumbling block for Peche, which, imo, puts out a better culinary product than say Angler (one star) in SF. The service, however, at Angler is on another level than Peche.


Do people really care about “service” this much?

I get that the inspectors do. Just seems super outdated.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 11:53 am to
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Look Cap, I wear my nice Sperry Topsiduhs when I go out in my long sleeve PFG.




I wrote this earlier in the week and then ended up at LPG wearing chubbies and Orvis shirt and Naot sandals a couple days later...I'm the problem. It's me.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27625 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Do people really care about “service” this much?


Yes and no. Whenever I go out to dinner on a normal or semi-nice occasion, it’s not that big of a deal as long as it’s not incredibly slow and is friendly.

But if you’re dropping $800-1000 for two people for dinner, it is nice to feel attended to.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74935 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:18 pm to
That's funny.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19796 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:23 pm to
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But if you’re dropping $800-1000 for two people for dinner, it is nice to feel attended to.


Extreme example

Someone above compared a place in SF to Peche, saying Peche has better food. If they are both same price range, who gives a shite of one’s service is super super great or whatever.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
123567 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:33 pm to
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I believe New Orleans would have double digit 1 stars


Like who? I think there are a few who could get there with some work.

Saint Germain. Maybe Coquette. Revolution. The new Emeril’s? Commanders would have to improve food a decent amount imo. I think Chemin thinks of itself as such but both times I’ve been there I didn’t consider it Star level. Maybe August but that might not work politically. Maybe Maypop could get there?
Posted by MobileJosh
On the go
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:38 pm to
Well, this a thread discussing Michelin starred restaurants and I used an example of the differences in two similar restaurants. In the context of being judged by an inspector. Not Chad from the North Shore.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27625 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Extreme example


Not really extreme for a 3 star. Which is what I was referring to.

Although to be fair I wasn’t very clear with my original statement.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:48 pm to
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If a place like Peter Lugers can hold on to their star as long as they did


They lost it last year. Shouldn’t have had one to begin with to be honest with you.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19796 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Well, this a thread discussing Michelin starred restaurants and I used an example of the differences in two similar restaurants. In the context of being judged by an inspector.


Right.

It’s just a silly outdated way to do things.

Does Michelin get into politics with their judging?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
107244 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Commanders would have to improve food a decent amount imo.


There was a time when I thought Commanders was the type of place that was striving to be something along the lines of a 2 Michelin star kind of place. It was sort of the closest from a service and food offering that appeared to come close to that kind of experience.

It's slipped a lot, though, and I agree with you that, without some improvement, would struggle to be deemed even in consideration for 1 Star at this point.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19796 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:51 pm to
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It's slipped a lot, though, and I agree with you that, without some improvement, would struggle to be deemed even in consideration for 1 Star at this point.


I’ve never really been “wowed” with anything there
Posted by MobileJosh
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Member since May 2018
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Does Michelin get into politics with their judging?



Absolutely. They also weigh on how trendy/ hip the chef de cuisine is vs the actual product. Which is why I could see Compère Lapin getting a star due to Nina's popularity. Or he'll even Bywater.
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