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re: I'm Confused...why are American's Actively Voting AGAINST Freedom?
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:01 pm to rocket31
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:01 pm to rocket31
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you realize, certainly, that conservatives squash more of our freedoms than liberals, right?
Really? Conservatives want higher taxes, nationalized healthcare, more gun laws, etc?
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Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:01 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Oh, wait...You actually believe that voting is how Presidents are selected in this country.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:01 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
We've traded security for liberty. You know how that ends up.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:02 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
People hate idiots and trump is an idiot.
That's why he will lose.
That's why he will lose.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:02 pm to thegreatboudini
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Look, I don't think Hillary should be president, but you are brain washed if you think Trump is the answer.
Nobody said he was the answer. Nobody knows anything. We just want to try something new and see how it goes. Hillary is a globalist with a horrible track record. We've already seen what she can do with her wars in Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. Her track record is a disgrace.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:03 pm to thegreatboudini
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Look, I don't think Hillary should be president, but you are brain washed if you think Trump is the answer.
I didn't say Trump was the answer to all our problems. I'm saying that what Hillary wants to do is completely against American values.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Nice melt.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:04 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The candidate promoting himself as the candidate of Law and Order cannot at the same time be proclaimed to be the candidate of Freedom. Those are contradictory ideas.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:05 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
progs don't want freedom
they want to restrict freedom to shift behaviors, property, etc around to do their best to equate outcomes. they have done a great PR job of spinning this into "freedom" when it's the opposite
always remember, freedom breeds inequality (buckley)
they want to restrict freedom to shift behaviors, property, etc around to do their best to equate outcomes. they have done a great PR job of spinning this into "freedom" when it's the opposite
always remember, freedom breeds inequality (buckley)
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
People don't want to think for themselves and be responsible for themselves.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:06 pm to TallMan
You have to have laws. It's not like the founding fathers said "Ok! You're free to go rape, pillage, and plunder wherever you wish!" When this country was started.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:09 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Read Escape from Freedom by Erich Fromm.
Some people say the first thing that truly free people do is to vote away their freedom
Some people say the first thing that truly free people do is to vote away their freedom
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:11 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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You have to have laws. It's not like the founding fathers said "Ok! You're free to go rape, pillage, and plunder wherever you wish!" When this country was started.
So you are in fact for restrictions on freedom. Most people are. You, just like the people you're criticizing, like the freedoms that you like and dislike the freedoms you don't like. Your 2nd item in your OP was restricting the freedom to enter and leave the country without the government's permission. You don't love freedom more than anyone else. You just like different freedoms.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:12 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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You have to have laws. It's not like the founding fathers said "Ok! You're free to go rape, pillage, and plunder wherever you wish!" When this country was started.
Progs don't care
this is why they will attack the ideals of our constitution as antiquated and/or as a symbol of oppression (white privilege, the patriarchy, etc)
they've won the PR war because the GOP was too worried courting the extreme religious demos and punishing social liberties (which make them unpopular AND hypocrites)
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:16 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
it is mind boggling
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:18 pm to hawgfaninc
most people i know who REALLY do want more freedom (aka, less government) are just as, if not more, freaked out at the GOP and its constituents/policies
trump really didn't tell me much that would make me feel like he's any different than any other authoritarian that the electorate loves so much
trump really didn't tell me much that would make me feel like he's any different than any other authoritarian that the electorate loves so much
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:30 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:this is a ridiculous statement. i read this board and i see people completely unaware of how fricked up and broken this country is, unaware of how dumb, dangerous, and destructive we are, that thinks the world hates us because of how awesome we are and that we "might" be in real trouble now because of obama and hillary.
We pride ourselves on being the freest country in the world, which we are.
our decline began a hundred years ago. our greed and imperialism led to endless war mongering and selling the government piece by piece to whoever wanted to buy it.
the dye is cast, we went over the edge a very long time ago, stop bickering over nonsense and start focusing on that.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:33 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
quote:
why are American's Actively Voting AGAINST Freedom?
They be wantin free stuff.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:34 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Because Donald Trump doesn't stand for it either. He wants to shut down the freedom of the press i.e. The First Amendment.
Posted on 11/8/16 at 5:36 pm to Contra
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Nobody said he was the answer
Have you read this board or listened to what Trump has directly said?
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