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re: For Those Bashing Obamacare
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to Napoleon
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to Napoleon
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Hospitals and Ambulances and all are bug business. Prices are inflated so they can charge insurance more
And insurance rates are high as giraffe pussy because I can sue the doctor because I don't like the way he talked to me.
You have to have tort reform. You stop stupid lawsuits, you stop rewarding people ridiculous sums of money for non-lifethreatening issues, and malpractice insurance goes down. Then the hospital doesn't have to charge you $5K/night for a room, and the doctor doesn't have to bill out at $400/hr.
Just saying.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to tke857
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pre existing conditions and no life time max should stay everything else should be tossed out the window
The coverage for children until age 26 will also have to remain, or I see a lot of politicians not getting reelected.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:11 pm to SP2016
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There were middle class folks that were financially wiped out
SO LETS WIPE OUT EVERYONE
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
frick You!
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:13 pm to Masterag
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inflated hospital/drug costs, premium costs, doctors visits all go to offset those without insurance and those who can't or won't pay
You write contracts between providers and insurance companies?
Kidding of course. You like most have no idea how the insides work and probably think the insurance companies' margins are 20% or more.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:17 pm to SP2016
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It does also have some shortcomings,
Dude, it has "longcoming." It is destroying people's savings.
I'm glad it may have benefitted you or someone you know but it is killing the middle class.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:21 pm to SP2016
I'd be in favor of going back to the old way. But offering people "Medicaid" with some cost sharing based on your income for pre existing conditions.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:30 pm to SP2016
My monthly premium went up by $200.00. $200.00. frick you
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:32 pm to SP2016
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rates were not as low as promised.
that's one way to spin it.
you could say that's extremely true and be on point.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:39 pm to roadGator
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You write contracts between providers and insurance companies?
Kidding of course. You like most have no idea how the insides work and probably think the insurance companies' margins are 20% or more.
No, just going by things I've read, experienced, and my own logical conclusions. But please educate me if you are privy
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:39 pm to StripedSaint
My family of three will cost me 12000 in premiums next year. And that is with a 5800 family deductible. frick that. I'm not paying that bullshite. frick obama care and frick obama for squeezing my family. We can't afford to have a second child right now yet hood rats are cranking out babies for free on the reg. frick obama care.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:40 pm to SP2016
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It mandated that no one could be turned down for coverage for folks with a pre-existing condition and that insurance companies couldn't dump a person with a serious illness because it wasn't fiscally preferable.
So because SOME people may have to pay more, EVERYONE has to pay more?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:40 pm to SP2016
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pre-existing condition
Forcing coverage of this effectively destroys insurance. The whole concept of insurance is blown out of the water.
It doesn't make sense.
Do you understand that?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:42 pm to SP2016
It's an easy fix.
Require healthcare plans be treated like all other insurance.
If you have insurance, and you get sick, and you never pay another dime in premiums, treatment of that illness is covered until it's cured or you die.
Basically if you are covered when the event occurs, the event is covered for life
Require healthcare plans be treated like all other insurance.
If you have insurance, and you get sick, and you never pay another dime in premiums, treatment of that illness is covered until it's cured or you die.
Basically if you are covered when the event occurs, the event is covered for life
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:46 pm to SP2016
My insurance has doubled in price and become crappier.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:49 pm to Masterag
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nflated hospital/drug costs, premium costs, doctors visits all go to offset those without insurance and those who can't or won't pay
Explain where these inflated costs show up?
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:50 pm to SP2016
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like some limitations on physician choice and the rates were not as low as promised.
This is so vastly underestimated by you that is makes me sick.
I mean for fricks sakes dude... It was a horribly designed "law".
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to SP2016
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It mandated that no one could be turned down for coverage for folks with a pre-existing condition and that insurance companies couldn't dump a person with a serious illness because it wasn't fiscally preferable.
I hope none of the Trump supporters become seriously ill once Obamacare is dismantled.
It does also have some shortcomings, for sure, like some limitations on physician choice and the rates were not as low as promised.
Though if you think that it benefited only low income AA's you would be wrong.
There were middle class folks that were financially wiped out because they were cut from their insurance coverage once they became seriously ill.
it is an incredibly stupid format that was already tried and failed in multiple states, so of course its going to work great at a national level. sure, now a small percentage of the population now has terrible, expensive insurance that didnt before, at the cost to the national debt so high you could probably just have directly purchased all of these people an insurance plan under the existing structure for cheaper. sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something stupid and expensive
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:55 pm to SP2016
Elections have consequences.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:57 pm to roadGator
Umm.... where do I start... getting grilled exhirbitant amount for cheap items in hospital stays, ambulance rides, doctors visits, emergency room visits for a start.
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:59 pm to elprez00
There really is no real plan to follow. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't I just don't see how you can't just get a decent insurance for say $300/mo that covers your regular visits and Rx if needed with deductibles for procedures.
I have hypertension and I just go to a cash clinic as all I need is an ekg every once in awhile and pills.
I have hypertension and I just go to a cash clinic as all I need is an ekg every once in awhile and pills.
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