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re: For Those Bashing Obamacare

Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30674 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

Hospitals and Ambulances and all are bug business. Prices are inflated so they can charge insurance more

And insurance rates are high as giraffe pussy because I can sue the doctor because I don't like the way he talked to me.

You have to have tort reform. You stop stupid lawsuits, you stop rewarding people ridiculous sums of money for non-lifethreatening issues, and malpractice insurance goes down. Then the hospital doesn't have to charge you $5K/night for a room, and the doctor doesn't have to bill out at $400/hr.

Just saying.
Posted by LSULaw2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2008
1718 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

pre existing conditions and no life time max should stay everything else should be tossed out the window


The coverage for children until age 26 will also have to remain, or I see a lot of politicians not getting reelected.
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

There were middle class folks that were financially wiped out


SO LETS WIPE OUT EVERYONE

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

frick You!
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149947 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

inflated hospital/drug costs, premium costs, doctors visits all go to offset those without insurance and those who can't or won't pay


You write contracts between providers and insurance companies?



Kidding of course. You like most have no idea how the insides work and probably think the insurance companies' margins are 20% or more.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

It does also have some shortcomings,

Dude, it has "longcoming." It is destroying people's savings.
I'm glad it may have benefitted you or someone you know but it is killing the middle class.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:21 pm to
I'd be in favor of going back to the old way. But offering people "Medicaid" with some cost sharing based on your income for pre existing conditions.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24435 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:30 pm to
My monthly premium went up by $200.00. $200.00. frick you
Posted by BadAgg7
Member since Aug 2015
1717 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

rates were not as low as promised.


that's one way to spin it.

you could say that's extremely true and be on point.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19569 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:39 pm to
quote:



You write contracts between providers and insurance companies?



Kidding of course. You like most have no idea how the insides work and probably think the insurance companies' margins are 20% or more.


No, just going by things I've read, experienced, and my own logical conclusions. But please educate me if you are privy
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14015 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:39 pm to
My family of three will cost me 12000 in premiums next year. And that is with a 5800 family deductible. frick that. I'm not paying that bullshite. frick obama care and frick obama for squeezing my family. We can't afford to have a second child right now yet hood rats are cranking out babies for free on the reg. frick obama care.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

It mandated that no one could be turned down for coverage for folks with a pre-existing condition and that insurance companies couldn't dump a person with a serious illness because it wasn't fiscally preferable.

So because SOME people may have to pay more, EVERYONE has to pay more?
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

pre-existing condition


Forcing coverage of this effectively destroys insurance. The whole concept of insurance is blown out of the water.

It doesn't make sense.

Do you understand that?

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23709 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:42 pm to
It's an easy fix.

Require healthcare plans be treated like all other insurance.

If you have insurance, and you get sick, and you never pay another dime in premiums, treatment of that illness is covered until it's cured or you die.

Basically if you are covered when the event occurs, the event is covered for life
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75054 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:46 pm to
My insurance has doubled in price and become crappier.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149947 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

nflated hospital/drug costs, premium costs, doctors visits all go to offset those without insurance and those who can't or won't pay


Explain where these inflated costs show up?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13989 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

like some limitations on physician choice and the rates were not as low as promised.

This is so vastly underestimated by you that is makes me sick.

I mean for fricks sakes dude... It was a horribly designed "law".
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21305 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

It mandated that no one could be turned down for coverage for folks with a pre-existing condition and that insurance companies couldn't dump a person with a serious illness because it wasn't fiscally preferable.

I hope none of the Trump supporters become seriously ill once Obamacare is dismantled.

It does also have some shortcomings, for sure, like some limitations on physician choice and the rates were not as low as promised.

Though if you think that it benefited only low income AA's you would be wrong.

There were middle class folks that were financially wiped out because they were cut from their insurance coverage once they became seriously ill.


it is an incredibly stupid format that was already tried and failed in multiple states, so of course its going to work great at a national level. sure, now a small percentage of the population now has terrible, expensive insurance that didnt before, at the cost to the national debt so high you could probably just have directly purchased all of these people an insurance plan under the existing structure for cheaper. sometimes doing nothing is better than doing something stupid and expensive
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:55 pm to
Elections have consequences.

Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19569 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:57 pm to
Umm.... where do I start... getting grilled exhirbitant amount for cheap items in hospital stays, ambulance rides, doctors visits, emergency room visits for a start.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
70931 posts
Posted on 11/9/16 at 2:59 pm to
There really is no real plan to follow. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't I just don't see how you can't just get a decent insurance for say $300/mo that covers your regular visits and Rx if needed with deductibles for procedures.

I have hypertension and I just go to a cash clinic as all I need is an ekg every once in awhile and pills.

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