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re: Started 3 minute cold showers about 3 weeks ago - the benefits iv found astonishingly real

Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:46 pm to
I think the lesson here is if something works for you and you think you are getting some benefit from it then do it. 'Studies' today are a joke so many of them are manipulated by who is funding them or doing the 'research' etc. Think of all the asinine 'study' results we have had in the last two years alone. What works for me isn't guaranteed to work for you and vice versa. Use yourself as a test rat and go from there.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:48 pm to
Usain Bolt ate 1,000 McDonald's chicken nuggets during his two weeks in Beijing for the 2008 Olympics. He said it was the only thing he knew wouldn't hurt his stomach. It also should be noted that athletes like him can get by with that type of diet for that short span of time to compete in a handful of races.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
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just know it’s placebo to an extent.

As we've discussed before, from a health standpoint this will not benefit anyone looking for mass. Distance runners/endurance athletes can benefit greatly.

Cold showers are actually healthy for your body. Increased blood circulation, tightens skin pores, prevents drying out your skin. This would be in comparison to overly hot showers.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 1:09 pm to
i still think it slows recovery but yea...if you like it do it, just know its not optimal.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
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Posted on 4/1/24 at 8:38 pm to
A neck deep ice bath for 2 minutes followed immediately by a hot shower is one of the best physical feelings in the world.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:29 am to
Where’s the science saying this isn’t complete rubbish?

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Submerging yourself in extremely cold water too often, say on a daily basis, isn't actually beneficial, similar to how it wouldn't be wise to max out in the gym or run your fastest sprint every day.

This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 6:31 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Submerging yourself in extremely cold water too often, say on a daily basis, isn't actually beneficial, similar to how it wouldn't be wise to max out in the gym or run your fastest sprint every day.


I think Dr Soberg recommends like 11 minutes a week of cold exposure, and that can come from full immersion in a tub or just a cold shower. I feel like the detractors are talking about sitting in one for 10 minutes after every football practice or something.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:23 am to
no the distractors are actually looking at the studies that look at what is happening on a cellular level and not going by feelings and emotions
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 10:24 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:40 am to
lol ok
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:16 pm to
well then post the actual studies showing the benefits. ive posted the ones showing negative effects

like i said before, if you like them, do them
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:34 am to
I've been doing cold plunge at my club for the last 3 weeks and I'm definitely a lifelong convert.

Right off the bat the benefits are:

More complete and rapid healing of minor "nagging" injuries (shoulders, biceps tendinitis, tennis elbow, minor knee pain)

Speedier recovery of muscles (fully ready to repeat a muscle group within 4 days now regardless of intensity of previous workout)

Better mindset, I feel more disciplined and like tough tasks aren't as daunting

I definitely feel more cold adapted around the house (it's always cold here in the morning but instead of needing my space heater on in the office I just kind of go with it - put on a knit Saints or LSU cap instead of warming the entire room.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 11:36 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 4/29/24 at 11:38 am to
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For that same reason, those looking to build muscle should avoid doing it regularly because it can potentially stymy muscle growth, which relies upon some inflammation.


The answer to this seems to be cold plunge in the AM and then work out in the evening, giving your stressed muscles a full 12 hours to repair / grow on their own before cold is put into the equation.

There's no way that my cold adaptation to my environs and my much less painful body is placebo at this point.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27119 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Better mindset, I feel more disciplined and like tough tasks aren't as daunting


This is the major benefit I find for myself. It is fricking hard to wake up at 5 am on a cold, drizzly morning and jump in a 38 degree bath, but I do it. I know if I can force myself to do that, then other things throughout the day are easier. For me, it's a meditative thing. Once I'm in, it's all about quieting my mind and getting comfortable. I slow my breathing, relax my body, and try to focus on the sounds of pre-dawn birds. It's training my mind to ignore the physical discomfort.

It carries over to work in that the stress doesn't bother me like it used to. If a problem comes up, I know how to go about it in a relaxed way. Like, say something has come up on a job site and the contractor is yelling this or that, I used to fire back and then have to take a walk afterwards to calm down. Now, I rarely if ever get worked up. My adrenaline doesn't spike like it used to. Maybe it's placebo, and maybe I don't care if it is a placebo. A placebo that works is no longer a placebo.

I don't know about the physical benefits, and the small number of studies are not the best. I just ignore the physical part and focus on the mental part. I do give credence to better cold tolerance. On the flipside, hot weather gets to me more.

It's also helped me cut a decent bit of caffeine out of my morning routine.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:23 am to
Been observing last couple days.

Not everyone who does cold plunge has a six pack, but just about everyone who has a six pack does cold plunge.

I've never belonged to a gym with this many super fit people (not even close) - it's been a real eye opener for me and incredibly motivational.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 9:25 am
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10220 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:33 am to
did the cold shower thing for lent as part of the Exodus 90 program. The mind games it plays are rough, but I felt great after!

I've been debating to do it again, but havent
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:54 am to
I feel like I could run through a brick wall after a cold shower.


I take a 10 day trip to hunt up north every year. We tent camp so no shower facilities. Every other day I jump in the lake (50 degree water) to clean off a bit. It's miserable but I feel great afterwards. Just want to run and pick heavy shite up.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:05 am to
Fwiw doing a cold shower by yourself with no peer pressure is really impressive.

For cold plunge once you're in it's binary (can't really cheat a pool like I would in shower) AND it's public so people see your reaction and the shame of getting out quickly would be worse than staying in. It's like a stoic competition to see who can be the least reactive
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 10:08 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 3:38 pm to
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well then post the actual studies showing the benefits. ive posted the ones showing negative effects



The problem with studies on it is that for the most part there hasn't been studies on "regular" people. A lot of them are on higher level athletes, and swimmers who already get in cold water regularly.

LINK

You'll see that pointed out in the above link on studies.

What is indisputable is that there is some calorie burning benefit to cold water exposure. I don't think you are burning very many extra calories at all, but I got/get my exposure by switching to cold showers. A few calories every time you shower can add up over time.

I'm not super well-versed on the brown fat stuff, but there appears to be something there as well.

As for the non-scientific things, I also do it to help my skin. Not that cold water is good for your skin necessarily, but hot water is bad for it generally. And like others have said, I just feel very good after it. I would probably do cold plunges if I had one readily accessible, but just doing an icy shower seems to work well enough and doesn't take any extra time.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14459 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:56 pm to
The plunge felt really good today. Always feels the best on the weekends.
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