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re: Verdict reached in Arbery trial
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:14 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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In one case, you can actually have physical evidence, which they didn't have other than the absolute insistence that he was a robber. It's a poor argument going from the evidence on hand, because nothing stolen was found on his person. Unless he violated the laws of physics too, there should be a trail of evidence linking Arbery directly, shouldn't there?
All those words and you didn't answer the question asked...
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:14 pm to imjustafatkid
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It's relevant to me. I'd definitely shoot someone for stealing from me. I think that's absolutely reasonable.
What? That isn’t even the claimed situation here. No one involved was a victim of theft.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:15 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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I doubt you live in a obscure rural culdsac in South Georgia boonies. You should look up the map of where this went down and where the "jogger" lives and the path he ran. smh, you all are dumb.
I think these guys are guilty, but the argument that he was just out for a jog is definitely nonsense. No one could possibly believe that.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:16 pm to Azkiger
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All those words and you didn't answer the question asked...
Because the question is stupid and bears no relevance on the charges or the verdict, given the testimony of the defendants.
What is more likely isn’t relevant at all, in any way, for any reason. It’s also not the standard for establishing anything, for any reason, in this case.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:16 pm to Indefatigable
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Which has greater odds, that Arbery was a jogger or that he was in that neighborhood trying to steal stuff?
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I’m desperately trying to figure out how that is relevant, at all. I got nothing.
They aren’t.
FWIW, I have seen some suspicious stuff on a couple of occasions where I called the police.
It is their job to look into reports of suspicious activity. At the end of the day, though, a public street is a public street. Jogging, walking, crawling, whatever...it is all irrelevant imho.
Call the cops, give your info, and simply use common sense.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:16 pm to imjustafatkid
Muh racist justice system
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:16 pm to Azkiger
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All those words and you didn't answer the question asked...
Lol you are still on the robber angle, despite the absolute absence of proof that Arbery was in fact the robber. Unless he could make things appear, where are the items?
If only the McRednecks had your powers of insight.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:17 pm to Azkiger
quote:Arbery had been in that house more than 5 times over 6 months and had never taken a thing. Either that is the longest casing of a house in history or he had zero intent of taking anything.
Entering a building with the intent to steal is a felony in the state of Georgia. Arbery had been videoed in that house 5 times. There he goes running by, and a neighbor is on the phone pointing at him. Yea, he's just jogging today.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:17 pm to OccamsStubble
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The greter odds are 'it doesn't matter'. When they killed the man, he didn't have so much as a box of panel nails on him.
1.) It matters because it's one of the criteria needed to fulfill a legal citizen's arrest.
2.) His death was the result of him reaching for one of their guns, not because they thought he stole something, so as long as their citizen's arrest was legal his shooting becomes an act of self defense.
3.) In GA entering a building with the intent to steal is a felony. So again, I ask, was his presence in the neighborhood just a jogger or was it reasonable to think he was there trying to steal stuff?
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:18 pm to Jcorye1
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The government usually does not take a great view on chasing down suspects when they don't even rob you personally.
Never shoot anyone running away. You lose the self defense argument because they are no longer a threat
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:18 pm to Azkiger
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Based on your understanding of Georgia law? Please, expand upon that.
Even after the verdict, you’re here being wrong. Sit in your wrongness and think about what you’ve done.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:19 pm to GhostOfFreedom
It’s sad people on here are defending those redneck POS
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:19 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:is it his running shoes being worn that make it so unbelievable to you? Or is it that his shorts had too many pockets?
I think these guys are guilty, but the argument that he was just out for a jog is definitely nonsense. No one could possibly believe that.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:19 pm to Azkiger
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So again, I ask, was his presence in the neighborhood just a jogger or was it reasonable to think he was there trying to steal stuff?
And I’ll say again, that it does not matter whatsoever in any way, at all. The defendants testified that they did not know a crime had been committed.
Period the end. There is no possibility of a lawful citizens arrest under those circumstances. None. At all.
It’s over. Give it up.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:21 pm to dallastiger55
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It’s sad people on here are defending those redneck POS
As well as the hood rat, drug pusher with long rap sheet.
Cuts both ways.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:21 pm to GhostOfFreedom
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As well as the hood rat, drug pusher with long rap sheet.
Defending the verdict is not the same as defending the victim.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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Because it was a poor argument to make without actual physical evidence.
A guy is spotted looking into one of your neighbor's daughter's bedroom window several times over the course of a few months. You come home from work, and see the dude running down the street one house away from that neighbor's house.
You think it's outlandish to think that he was there trying to look into her room again? You need physical evidence?
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:22 pm to deltaland
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Never shoot anyone running away. You lose the self defense argument because they are no longer a threat
That’s not an absolute rule, Delta, but if you do it, you better be able to articulate the threat against life or grave bodily injury that the subject poses to you or a third party.
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