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re: How Powerful was Carlos Marcello?

Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59610 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 12:14 pm to
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As if Google and Amazon would be headquartered here

No but more oil and gas companies might have been. Or look what has happened with Freeport McMoran, Ruth Chris, Smoothie King, International Shipping Corp. Didn't they leave?

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MG does more for this city than anything else.

Congrats on those 2 weeks?
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8821 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:00 pm to
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No but more oil and gas companies might have been. Or look what has happened with Freeport McMoran, Ruth Chris, Smoothie King, International Shipping Corp. Didn't they leave?


This. The history of the terrible business climate in the state stifled so much business when La was set up for success with location and resources.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
2434 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:31 pm to
Well, you could follow the immigration pattern to see where the Sicilians, not Italians, first came in volumes.
Posted by NonkG
Evangeline, La
Member since Nov 2018
132 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:32 pm to
This just might be the most read topic I can remember on this board. Compelling read!
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52808 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 1:49 pm to
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read Mafia Kingfish years ago. Pretty convincing to me that he was involved.



Seems like a cool book. Recommend?
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6233 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 2:50 pm to
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Recommend?


Yes! I enjoyed that book, too.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9550 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:11 pm to
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Y'all hate Huey so much but the old regulars fought him tooth and nail when he built a highway connecting New Orleans to rest of state.


Ok? Huey Long was a massive piece of shite crook Commie. frick him, he was horrible for the state.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22790 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:24 pm to
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If he had went against the NE he probably would have been smacked down and put in his place.


Maybe, maybe not. Marcello's predecessor Sam Corolla didn't put up with other gangs trying to muscle into his territory:

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In February 1928, Al Capone's brother Ralph Capone, was trying to force Carollo to supply his brother's Chicago Outfit with imported alcohol and cut off Joe Aiello, a rival bootlegger in Chicago.[2] Arriving by train in New Orleans with several Outfit mobsters to press his case, Capone's party was intercepted at the station by Carollo and several New Orleans policemen. Carollo's cops reportedly disarmed Capone's henchmen and then broke their fingers. Capone was forced to immediately board another train to Chicago without any concessions from Carollo.


I'd assume Marcello would have felt the same way.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8821 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Seems like a cool book. Recommend?


I have actually been trying to read that book for a while but couldn't find it and then forgot about it. Weirdly, as much as we know about the Nola organized crime stuff really is nothing compared to what we know about NYC, Chicago, New England, Florida and the other Midwestern families. Apparently there was a goat farmer war in Colorado involving the mob wayyyy back and they sent guys from all over out there to help the farmers fight. Also, I read something about a "school" in America for young guys ran by the Black Hand a really long time ago. Can't find much information about either but it was interesting to ponder.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:09 pm to
Ya supposed ta push WEBISTICS
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27730 posts
Posted on 11/23/21 at 4:20 pm to
Are you Captain D's grandson?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3985 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 1:50 pm to
Last name starts with a B
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
3985 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 1:55 pm to
This is quite possibly the best paragraph I’ve ever seen to describe New Orleans socialite scene.

Nobody outside of New Orleans cares. People inside New Orleans care so so much.

——

Also for the one poster who said they think most of the mob has moved to the north shore

One of my good friends in college who we all agreed his dad was in the mob lives on the north shore.

Had really wild stories about his dad. Said his dad woke him up at 2 in the morning in a full suit. And made him drive him to a 4 way stop out in the boonies. And drop him off and go home. And this is a guy who never jokes about anything.
This post was edited on 11/25/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2392 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 4:52 pm to
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MG does more for this city than anything else. Ask the hotel industry, or the food and bev people. And you'd be surprised how many dynamic people actually come here because of MG, not in spite of it. There's a krewe and a ball for everyone.
my goodness. You are positioned to control the mouth of the MF Mississippi River and some of the busiest ports on the planet. But settling and defending Bourbon Street and parade income as the main value proposition?
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8821 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 7:14 pm to
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my goodness. You are positioned to control the mouth of the MF Mississippi River and some of the busiest ports on the planet. But settling and defending Bourbon Street and parade income as the main value proposition?



Right? Why can't we have both? We did for a long time. I love La and I love every city here (even if I like to pick fun at it) but we should all be outraged at how far we have fallen due to short sighted policies.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 9:00 pm to
One side of my family talks about New Orleans in its halcyon days; they make it sound like a magical place. Unfortunately, it just seems like Detroit South to me. I don’t have much hope that it will ever trend back up in my lifetime. I love Louisiana for what it was and want to return someday, but that’s becoming increasingly unlikely.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
8821 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 9:36 pm to
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Detroit South to me.


I was shocked at how much Detroit reminded me of New Orleans when I was up there. I mean Nola is not at that level, and Detroit has had a few things trending up with the Quickens Loan guy trying to help the city but yeah, Nola can't get out of its own way. But that is the entire state for that matter. Would have been really cool to see the city back in the day.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25534 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:42 pm to
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I was shocked at how much Detroit reminded me of New Orleans when I was up there. I mean Nola is not at that level, and Detroit has had a few things trending up with the Quickens Loan guy trying to help the city but yeah, Nola can't get out of its own way. But that is the entire state for that matter. Would have been really cool to see the city back in the day.


Detroit has so much more going for it at this point. Downtown is being revitalized. Violent crime is slowly leaving that area (but obviously still bad elsewhere). Major rebuilding projects going on.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired
Member since Feb 2019
4659 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 10:59 pm to
Since he orchestrated the death of a US President, I'd say pretty powerful.
Posted by 197603apf
Member since Sep 2021
119 posts
Posted on 11/25/21 at 11:01 pm to
Marcelo family had the land between Avondale and GI which is called Delta Farms. I fished it often with relatives of Marcelo.
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