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re: We are at the point where if it’s not a home run hire, it’s a big failure on Woody’s part

Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:32 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66868 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:32 am to
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Talk me off the ledge, people!


LSU football is a hitters park.

Any solid contact seems to be what most would consider a home run in the end
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10509 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:33 am to
Well if he can’t get who he wants because of some fundamental problem with LSU then Woody will not be here long and we, as fans, need to demand to know what the real problem is.

I frankly don’t think we have a fundamental problem other than a perception issue with some fans. They look in the mirror and see ugly when the reality is beauty. We have the best program in the country. It just needs to be sold.

The money we spend on football is actually perverse. Any coach that doesn't want to take it, has confidence issues.

Again tho; if woody can’t get who he wants, he will hit stick around
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1856 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:33 am to
won't know for several years whether the hire is a homerun or not
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5384 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:40 am to
Tucker- foul ball
Aranda- double
Fisher- free walk or pass
Riley - Home Run
The rest are at the bottom of the order.
Posted by CorndogLover
BATON ROUGE, LA
Member since Nov 2016
87 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:42 am to
I dunno. If Woodward hires someone that comes in and kills it then it’s a home run. You don’t call a home run before the batter has swung, it’s the result that matters. If he gets the right guy then all is goid
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18320 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:45 am to
The program that Saban built has officially been burned to the ground in record time by Ogre.
Do not buy in on that any coach can win a national championship concept that everybody uses to gloss over a possible failure to get a Tier 1 coach despite offering obscene record breaking compensation.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24266 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:56 am to
Riley was just a hot name and he’s done pretty well at Ou. Aranda didn’t want to be a head coach supposedly but look what he’s done with Baylor. Point is it may be some coach that’s not on anyone’s radar but that doesn’t mean the hire will be a failure.
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
2608 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:00 am to
ANY coach is an upgrade from the last two potatoes we were stuck with since 2004. Give me a check and a headset and I would be an upgrade. Let's just be real.

No matter who he hires, it's an upgrade from what we've gotten used to looking at on the sideline and in the press conferences. Relax.
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:08 am to
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Talk me off the ledge, people!


It will be fine. If Riley doesn't come it's not the end of the world. He has his own set of issues that should give us at least a moment of pause. LSU can succeed no matter who the coach is, I think the last two coaches proved that.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42044 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:13 am to
Brook Trout
Posted by TickNVM
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Member since Sep 2016
143 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:57 am to
This isn't Woodward's first rodeo. Especially when hiring high profile coaches.

Woody ain't betting his legacy on small potatoes.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116327 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:58 am to
It doesn't have to be a splash. How about just finding a good football coach.

You people are ridiculous.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98359 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:07 am to
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ANY coach is an upgrade from the last two potatoes we were stuck with since 2004


There are coaches out there who would do worse.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98359 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:08 am to
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This isn't Woodward's first rodeo. Especially when hiring high profile coaches. Woody ain't betting his legacy on small potatoes.


Nobody's infallible, Woodward included. It's possible he may swing and miss this time.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:09 am to
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He’s had PLENTY time to get his ducks in a row in order to make a huge splash hire.


This is the problem with a lot of this fan base. It doesn’t have to be some huge splash to get a good coach. Is Aranda a splashy hire? No he’s not, but he’s a damn good football coach. He demands discipline, toughness, and great defensive play. He also understands the importance of offense and Baylor is really good in that area as well. He’s a very well rounded coach. I mean….. how many schools with great coaches currently made some huge splash? It’s a very low number I can tell you. There are actually more cases of the big splash not doing well than the other way around.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98359 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:11 am to
I would be ecstatic with Aranda. If he goest to USCw because we were slow playing him...
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:12 am to
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won't know for several years whether the hire is a homerun or not



Because if you subscribe to the idea that you pay a coach based on what he's done, giving a coach that has no NC appearances the most money of any coach on a per-year basis is not a home run, it's overpaying, until he delivers the hardware.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4996 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:15 am to
If somebody turns the highest salary in CFB to stay at a top program and a place he likes, I dont think it's a failure.

You made a run at a guy with a big pay raise and he didn't bite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261735 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:17 am to
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giving a coach that has no NC appearances the most money of any coach on a per-year basis is not a home run, it's overpaying,


Unless you're in those negotiations and interviews, no.

A winner is a winner, some people can see them early in their career. You overpay for potential.
Posted by Jabontik
Houston
Member since Dec 2016
2903 posts
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:18 am to
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Tucker- foul ball
Aranda- double
Fisher- free walk or pass
Riley - Home Run
The rest are at the bottom of the order.


there's a couple solid singles, could be stretched into a double

Campbell
Fickell
Franklin
Napier

also you forgot

Rhule - three run HR
Meyer - three run HR
Saban - Grand Slam
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