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re: The Wheel of Time -- Season 2 coming in September -- Wise Ones Thread (Book Spoilers)

Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:23 pm to
30 years ago, I found The Eye of the World and absolutely fell in love with the characters. I have read the full series and the sequel through several times and listen to the audio books every couple of years now. So I am heavily invested in the novels and the character, and the central story that unfolds. So everything I see in the tv series is colored by my love of the novels.

I have no issues with the casting at all, race if the cast or any of that, even though few of the cast appear as I imagined.

The changes thus far: most of the changes make no sense and only distract from the story. From the onset Mat was a great character. Turning his parents into terrible people and making him a loser and thief is an abomination. It’s unforgivable.

Emonds Field. Why remove Emonds Field. The place where Aemon died is central to the entire backstory and the history of the entire series.

No Bela. Nothing more to say about that.

The magic system. Change everything else, but change the magic system and you have changed the very heart of what makes the Wheel of Time the Wheel of Time. Saidin and Saidar, the male and female halves of the One Power are what drive the wheel.

Now in this series it’s just one thing, one power. All the same for men or women. No explanation why touching Saidin drives men insane, and why that is what caused the Breaking of the World.

Robert Jordan was progressive in his thinking and gave women a prominent role in his novels. Rafe Judkins has taken Jordan’s story and turned into into his own personal fan fiction as if he could tell it better through his woke lens. I hate him.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:28 pm to
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No Bela. Nothing more to say about that.


Egwene definitely said the name Bela when she was trying to urge her horse forward at one point. I believe it was outside Shadar Logoth.

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Now in this series it’s just one thing, one power. All the same for men or women. No explanation why touching Saidin drives men insane, and why that is what caused the Breaking of the World.


My hope is they just left it out at this point. There is plenty of time to get into that without overloading the viewer.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 1:47 pm to
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he magic system. Change everything else, but change the magic system and you have changed the very heart of what makes the Wheel of Time the Wheel of Time. Saidin and Saidar, the male and female halves of the One Power are what drive the wheel.



I think they're foreshadowing that... they've already foreshadowed the Yin/Yang symbol. I believe the female end was shown in blood at end of E3, and remember seeing the male side of it in one of the other episodes. Its coming, just hang tight.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Rand AlThor
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 2:44 pm to
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The changes thus far: most of the changes make no sense and only distract from the story. From the onset Mat was a great character. Turning his parents into terrible people and making him a loser and thief is an abomination. It’s unforgivable.



Not telling you you're wrong because you're your own person and this is just your opinion, but, I will say, most people agree that Mat is the weakest of the main 5 for the longest in the series. He really doesn't become the awesome Mat that people love until the middle of the series. He is a weak character in the first two books IMO.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 6:01 pm to
I’ve been reading just as long as you champ. Picked up Eye in 96.

Mat was a shite character until he woke up in Tar Valon in tDR.

Think a little 3 dimensionally man. They can’t show inner monologues. Think of the things Mat and Perrin struggle with. Think of their inner demons and the men they become.

Bela is there. She was named by the producers.

Saidin and Saidar are going to be distinct.

Relax. Take the show for what it is. Not what it isnt.

I’m enjoying the hell out of it. You can choose to be miserable. The books don’t change.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 6:02 pm
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 9:37 pm to
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No explanation why touching Saidin drives men insane, and why that is what caused the Breaking of the World.




And it completely overlooks the role false dragons have played in history and the political divisions within the Tower. The Reds may be fanatics but it's not a mindless fanaticism. Men who can channel are just as dangerous as the Reds claim them to be.
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