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He isn't my first choice, but if Jimbo Fisher is the hire...
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:52 pm
...the thing to remember is that Jimbo Fisher would be, BY FAR, the most accomplished coach LSU will have ever hired in the modern history of its program.
He's won a national championship, he's won conference championships. He's won 77 percent of his games as a head coach. His 2013 Florida State team was one of the best ever to take the field, much like our 2019 team.
Currently you'd have to say that either Nick Saban or Bo Rein had the best resumes of all the coaches hired by LSU in the past half-century or so. And Saban had been essentially a 6-5 coach at Michigan State until that breakout season in 1999. His resume was the best largely on the strength of his having been Belichik's defensive coordinator at Cleveland and a 9-2 season as head coach at Toledo, which meant going 9-2 in that one year at Michigan State was probably more indicative of who he was as a coach than the 6-5's before that.
We've never hired a coach who had won a championship of any kind as a head coach prior to coming to LSU. Fisher has multiple conference titles under his belt.
Again, I'm not all that excited about this hire. I can get excited about Lincoln Riley, and there are a bunch of coaches out there nobody's talking about who would be a good bit like the Jay Johnson hire in baseball.
But if you consider the truly meager resumes of the coaches we've hired over the years and the success they've nonetheless had here, you really can't melt if it's Fisher. He's a top-tier hire; the only question on him is whether he's burned out and that isn't really in evidence at the moment.
He's won a national championship, he's won conference championships. He's won 77 percent of his games as a head coach. His 2013 Florida State team was one of the best ever to take the field, much like our 2019 team.
Currently you'd have to say that either Nick Saban or Bo Rein had the best resumes of all the coaches hired by LSU in the past half-century or so. And Saban had been essentially a 6-5 coach at Michigan State until that breakout season in 1999. His resume was the best largely on the strength of his having been Belichik's defensive coordinator at Cleveland and a 9-2 season as head coach at Toledo, which meant going 9-2 in that one year at Michigan State was probably more indicative of who he was as a coach than the 6-5's before that.
We've never hired a coach who had won a championship of any kind as a head coach prior to coming to LSU. Fisher has multiple conference titles under his belt.
Again, I'm not all that excited about this hire. I can get excited about Lincoln Riley, and there are a bunch of coaches out there nobody's talking about who would be a good bit like the Jay Johnson hire in baseball.
But if you consider the truly meager resumes of the coaches we've hired over the years and the success they've nonetheless had here, you really can't melt if it's Fisher. He's a top-tier hire; the only question on him is whether he's burned out and that isn't really in evidence at the moment.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:53 pm to macaoidh
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the most accomplished coach LSU will have ever hired in the modern history of its program.
Which is why Woodward would hire him, and more than likely already has.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:59 pm to macaoidh
Im trying to see it, I really am. But I think a lot of people including myself wants an “up and coming” young coach.... You could make an argument for both sides
Posted on 10/30/21 at 6:03 pm to macaoidh
I want Aranda, but I think it will be Petersen or Fisher just based on Woodward's past history.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 6:11 pm to macaoidh
Not exciting at all. Will be 57, and offense hasn’t really adapted. Not to many Sabans that coach at a high level until damn near 79. If it’s him so be it. But, would much rather hire a coach in his 40’s that will be here for ten years or longer. We all know why he left Florida State, its a dumpster fire. Improved some during the covid year at A&M. Not sure give me Aranda, Franklin, Tucker, Napier, hell even Kiffin first. Might be not as proven, but the potential with those guys are higher to me..
Posted on 10/30/21 at 6:54 pm to macaoidh
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if Jimbo Fisher is the hire
then we will be right back here in 3 years looking for a new HC to replace him
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:39 am to macaoidh
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His 2013 Florida State team was one of the best ever to take the field, much like our 2019 team.
2019 LSU would mud stomp that FSU team, kidding me?
Anyways, carry on
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:41 am to macaoidh
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...the thing to remember is that Jimbo Fisher would be, BY FAR, the most accomplished coach LSU will have ever hired in the modern history of its program.
I’d prefer we go in a different direction than Jimbo personally, but I got nothing to disagree with your point. You are correct.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 9:48 am to macaoidh
Im not a huge Jimbo fan but I don't hate him. What I do hate is how much he would cost us. He's going to want at least $12 million/year for like 8 years. And Jumbo simply isn't worth that much money.
If I'm wrong and he is, in fact, worth it, you give him a new contract! Problem with big contracts out the gate is that you are stuck with the hire. People bitched about Orgeron's $17 million buyout - buying out a Jumbo with 4 years would cost $50 fricking million.
If I'm wrong and he is, in fact, worth it, you give him a new contract! Problem with big contracts out the gate is that you are stuck with the hire. People bitched about Orgeron's $17 million buyout - buying out a Jumbo with 4 years would cost $50 fricking million.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:16 am to macaoidh
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Generally agree.
Generally agree.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 10:18 am
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:22 am to macaoidh
We’re already spinning lol.
Posted on 11/1/21 at 10:28 am to macaoidh
The lack of enthusiasm is my belief that Jimbo’s best days are behind him while Aranda and Napier’s are ahead of them. LSU would find itself once again buying high and selling low with Jimbo. It would be a pleasant surprise to see Woodward reverse that trend with Ogeron’s replacement.
This post was edited on 11/1/21 at 10:29 am
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