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re: 83% of Covid-19 deaths were among the Fully Vaccinated past month in UK

Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:14 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75017 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:14 am to
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So you'll believe numbers that match your narrative while ignoring actual government data from a country where you don't reside and has no bearing on the US political system?




I don't believe any of the numbers
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:15 am to
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You’ve been here a couple days. You don’t know anything.


I know enough to deal with people like you.

I've seen your activity on the forum. It's what you do. When people point out that the data doesn't show what you suggest it does, you conveniently either ignore it ('no thanks') or attack them.

It's weak quite frankly and doesn't add anything to the discussion.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75017 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:16 am to
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I know enough to deal with people like you.

I've seen your activity on the forum


Your name is perfect alter
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:17 am to


From your link.
Weeks 34-37
Covid cases by vaccination status.

For every age subgroup above 40, the rate of Covid infections is higher per 100,000 in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:18 am to
frick you, pussy. You’re glossing the report. Which people like you do.

And you’re an alter.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119500 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:18 am to
The vaccine does not work.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:19 am to
Either our allies are lying or our government and media are. I know who I’m picking
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:19 am to
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Or that unvaxed are going and getting tested when they show symptoms in case they have it, whereas vaxed aren't, because they have the vax and think its a cold/sinus infectio


Again, which is why I said it's not enough to conclude anything at this stage.

But the bottom line is, vaccines do reduce the death rates and hospitalization rates among people over 50 quite significantly.

Side note: Human bodies seem to decay pretty massively from 40 to 50. Death rates quadruple between the two age groups among the unvaccinated.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25501 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:19 am to
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So, it doesn't work.


And may actually do harm.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:19 am to
Pfizer never worked.
Just had the best marketing.

Which is typical of Pfizer products.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
15562 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:21 am to
At the end of the day, age, health, and a strong immune system determines your destiny, NOT the vaccine!
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:22 am to
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For every age subgroup above 40, the rate of Covid infections is higher per 100,000 in the vaccinated than the unvaccinated.


Which WAS NOT THE DISCUSSION being made in the OP.

How convenient.

We were talking about hospitalizations and death rates. The UK government themselves said their aim of vaccination was to reduce hospitalization rates, not infection rates.

It doesn't matter if people are infected - as long as they're not ending up in hospital, that's the entire crisis resolved.

And lastly, the UK government pretty much set out with the aim of not reducing infection rates but reducing death rates (which is why they vaccinated vulnerable people and the elderly first).

So the vaccine serves its purpose. Once again, you've not provided a rebuttal and instead gone off on a tangent about something completely different.
This post was edited on 10/25/21 at 8:24 am
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11298 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:23 am to
It would be more interesting if the global governments weren’t using it as a lever of power.

I’d imagine this has to do with the underlying health of the deceased. A vaccination that isn’t as strong as natural immunity isn’t going to save you from your diabetes and heart disease. Does the NHS tag Covid deaths differently than we do?
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80361 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:26 am to
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vaccines do reduce the death rates and hospitalization rates among people over 50 quite significantly.


I don't dispute that and have said numerous times, those with comorbidities should consider getting the vax... They shouldn't be forced though and those younger than 50 that are healthy, shouldn't get the jab.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5163 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:32 am to
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I don't think anybody has a problem with people under 30 not getting vaccinated - it's not them who end up in hospital.


If true, people under 30 wouldn’t be getting fired
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
2551 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:35 am to
Doesn’t work. Instead, makes people more susceptible to death when infected. The further along we get away from the rollout of the poison, the more it becomes obvious.
Posted by AmericanPsycho99
Member since Sep 2021
121 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:39 am to
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. Instead, makes people more susceptible to death when infected. The further along we get away from the rollout of the poison, the more it becomes obvious.




Let me repeat, the data does not show this.

The data published by the UK government shows that vaccinated people have a much lower death rate compared with unvaccinated people.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12132 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:42 am to
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I don't think anybody has a problem with people under 30 not getting vaccinated - it's not them who end up in hospital.


You don't Think!
Obvious or you live in another dimension.
We are pounded daily with propaganda demanding that children get the vaccine.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:43 am to
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I’d really like to know the reason behind all of this. There has to be something else going on.



2030 AGENDA/Global Reset

Google Klaus Schwab's book "Covid 19 The Great Reset".

They aren't even hiding their hand, our media is.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5163 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 8:47 am to
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80+ Vaccinated death rate per 100,000: 156 Unvaccinated death rate per 100,000: 49.5 Vaccine reduces the death rate by 65% among the 80+.


Someone missed math
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