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re: Nov 13 2021 La Constitutional Amendments

Posted on 10/7/21 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
10435 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 1:36 pm to
4 seems like it saves us money. Certain programs will have extra money and some will have a shortfall.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

No
Yes
No
No



Which means the populace will overwhelmingly vote

Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Posted by TigerMomma4
Member since Mar 2020
471 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 1:59 pm to
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it is eliminating the need for the 63 local collection offices


But it isn't actually eliminating them. The local offices will remain, with duties shifted.
Posted by Tiger2712
Member since Nov 2018
106 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 2:38 pm to
#2 no. Will not be able to deduct federal taxes from state return if this passes.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67216 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 3:18 pm to
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I would be up for approving a new agency but only if we get to eliminate 5 old ones


This one essentially replaces 63 agencies with 1

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
This post was edited on 10/7/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 3:27 pm to
I'll save you some time.. ALWAYS vote No on amendments. Most are BS anyway. And ALWAYS ALWAYS VOTE NO ON MILLAGE INCREASES!!!
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 3:29 pm to
That's what they're banking on... morons go into a booth and don't understand it so they vote for it.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 3:30 pm to
Because we already have a bloated government with to many useless agencies and to many managers per workers.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 4:17 pm to
4 seems like a Bee headline.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68435 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 4:57 pm to
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fricking motherfricking No
Haven't we complained about how the La const forces spending in particular areas and allows for no cuts? Wouldn't this allow for some of that unnecessarily pre-determined spending to move to actual areas of need? It will reduce protected spending.
This post was edited on 10/7/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21425 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:22 pm to
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this is how the left takes over the government. They don't ignore it. They jump in and take it over while the right is too pissed off to get involved. The right has a responsibility to pay attention and participate


Bingo.

It's been stated here recently and needs to be said again. The conservative side, at least in Louisiana, has a huge problem whereby everything is nationalized, even more so these days. Everything is MAGA and the red meat national show host talking point, and they don't bare down and get their folks clued in on the state and local stuff. Next thing you know, you have an election with very low participation rates at the polls from the conservative leaning side.

Meanwhile, the leftists and their organizations like LA Budget Project and such are making sure their side knows what's taking place and makes damn sure they turn out for these less publicized local and special state election.

Turn off Dan Bongino just for a bit, not completely, and spend that extra time learning about your local and state government in Louisiana. How does it work? What does the Constitution say? What are these amendments truly going to mean? Who is running for judge, parish council/policy jury?

Then get out and vote and make a difference in THOSE elections.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65050 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 5:24 pm to
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I would be up for approving a new agency but only if we get to eliminate 5 old ones


quote:

This one essentially replaces 63 agencies with 1


Yeah that's going to be incorrect. It won't replace even 1 of them.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21425 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:01 pm to
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With present law they dont have to make difficult decisions. The only formula to get out of deficit is cut higher ed, cut healthcare, or raise taxes. With this amendment they could do things like across the board cuts or more cut bullshite programs with dedicated funding.


You're not wrong, but good luck convincing others here.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21425 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:06 pm to
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4 seems like a Bee headline.


Except the State Constitution, drawn up by Edwin Edwards himself, causes the issue that 4, while not perfect, seems to attempt to remediate some.

Again, with the way the Constitution is current written, the only segments of state government that can receive a significant reduction in funding, even in times of a deficit, is health care and higher education.

This was done on purpose by EWE so that during those times, he and his ilk could claim that anyone who didn't support a tax increase for additional revenues was for killing the old and handicap and keeping our school children dumb.

Is that the mantra we want the left to be able to continue chanting for more tax increases?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67216 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:34 pm to
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Yeah that's going to be incorrect. It won't replace even 1 of them.


It will allow businesses to avoid dealing with them while massively scaling back their responsibilities of those agencies.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47855 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 6:58 pm to
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. Every business owner I know of is in favor of not having to write multiple checks to every local agency that taxes them.
aren’t sheriffs supposed to be the sole tax collectors in every parish???
Posted by nfcpa
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
13 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 8:58 pm to
Definitely vote FOR number 1. I file sales tax returns every month and the current requirements are prehistoric and cost my clients more money because it takes extra time. Other states have already moved to a streamlined method and filing in those states is a breeze.

I voted NO for number 2. You are giving up the federal tax as a deduction. That's stupid because you are going to pay tax on money you never touched. It's like tipping the tax on a restaurant bill. What happens is tax revenue is generated out of thin air. Keep in mind your federal taxes are going up under the communist and socialist run congress. If you read the proposal there are too many "ifs" in it. You know those "ifs" aren't likely to happen. I do like the rate reductions though but don't let the fools gold warp your mind. They should have kept the federal tax deduction and just set a flat rate at 3% or 4% and let it roll.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10151 posts
Posted on 10/7/21 at 9:01 pm to
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t would eliminate a lot of paperwork and make it easier for small businesses and other retailers to collect sales taxes and send the payments to one entity, instead of more than 50.

Does it get rid of the other 50 or is it just more and more crap?
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 10/8/21 at 10:43 am to
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Except the State Constitution, drawn up by Edwin Edwards himself, causes the issue that 4, while not perfect, seems to attempt to remediate some.

Again, with the way the Constitution is current written, the only segments of state government that can receive a significant reduction in funding, even in times of a deficit, is health care and higher education.

This was done on purpose by EWE so that during those times, he and his ilk could claim that anyone who didn't support a tax increase for additional reevery uninformed poster on this boards starts parroting John Kennedy's useless talking points venues was for killing the old and handicap and keeping our school children dumb.

Is that the mantra we want the left to be able to continue chanting for more tax increases?


Four should have rousing support from anyone who understands the terrible shape our Constitution is in, and how much in hamstrings legislators.

Everytime we are in a budget deficit, 100s of posters who don't understand how our budget works calls for across the board cuts, but that isn't possible due to constitution and statutory dedications. This amendment would make them possible.
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