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re: Dan Patrick sources saying LSU will hire someone who can get Arch

Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Peyton Manning would make an epic college football coach. I don't know that he is interested in coaching but he's got every tool to be a Nick Saban.


he's got every tool to be the greatest college football coach that has ever lived?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95905 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Someone hasn’t seen them play, Arch is better

Not close to being true

Howard is more physical and refined than Manning. And they are actually the same age
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:53 pm to
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he's got every tool to be the greatest college football coach that has ever lived?


Didn't really say that did I ? He would never coach that long but I do think he could take a program and very quickly sign top classes and win championships. Zero doubt.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5934 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Arch doesn’t give a shite about David cutcliffe

At some point people will realize Archie has nothing to do with this. This isn’t 1995. Kids are so much more independent. He isn’t going to Duke or Om or Tennessee




Not that I believe Arch will go wherever Cutcliffe goes, because it's pretty clear the guy is past his coaching prime, but if you don't think the Mannings are micromanaging Arch's recruiting process, you haven't paid much attention to that family. If he makes any decision independent of his family, it would be a huge upset.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8657 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:02 pm to
"LSU has to hire someone who can get into the Arch Manning sweepstakes"

BS. We have a 5* from LA committed. It wouldn't make sense to put all your eggs in the Arch basket.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19564 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:02 pm to
A Manning isn’t coming to LSU.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5934 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:03 pm to
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This is just completely ignorant




Lester, of all the people to call anything ignorant, you have the least amount of room to say it.

What I said is absolute fact. Alabama went HOW MANY years without any of their QB's starting a single game? How is McCarron doing? How is Tua doing? How is Sims doing? How is Cook doing? How about the new kid on the block, Mac Jones doing?

Alabama wins games. They do not develop NFL caliber QB's. History proves that point emphatically. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:04 pm to
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Alabama puts terrible QB's in the NFL. He's not going there to be developed into an NFL QB
Good lord, man.

In the last 7 years, Bama has had numerous QBs drafted:
McCarron (5th round), Tua (1), Jalen Hurts (2), and Mac Jones (1). Doubtful you'll find many schools better than that.

Whether they become NFL Hall of Famers isn't the issue.

QBs succeed at Bama and get drafted high.

This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15152 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:05 pm to
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it's because he wants to go somewhere that he can win immediately and not have to worry about getting hit, almost ever.


Tua had ankle and hip surgery
Posted by DTig
Member since Apr 2019
534 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:05 pm to
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Peyton Manning would make an epic college football coach


Peetz says hi. LSU is not a training ground for newbies.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47993 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:07 pm to
Comparing Peetz to Peyton Manning is like comparing Albert Einstein to yourself. If Manning were interested we’d do well to give him and his family whatever they wanted to run this program.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5934 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Good lord, man.

In the last 7 years, Bama has had numerous QBs drafted:
McCarron (5th round), Tua (1), Jalen Hurts (2), and Mac Jones (1). Doubtful you'll find many schools better than that.

Whether they become NFL Hall of Famers isn't the issue.

QBs succeed at Bama and get drafted high.





In what world could you have possibly believed this was a refutation of my point? I said Alabama puts terrible QB's in the NFL. It doesn't matter where they get drafted. If you're good, you're going to get drafted, and there are lots of schools that put out more QB's, or at least as many, simply as draft picks, than Alabama, and some of them ACTUALLY don't suck when they get there. Imagine that? The point is that if you want a springboard to a successful NFL career as a QB, Alabama isn't the place to go.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9544 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:10 pm to
Dan Patrick doesn't know shite about CFB. None of those national broadcast guys give a shite about the sport.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
587 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:21 pm to
LSU hasn't typically been a place where top QBs go in the last decade. That's a recent development. Seems where they've fallen off a bit in recruiting is O and D linemen and running backs. The school has the chops to put that altogether, though, so I expect that to happen at some point.
Posted by Tigerpimp1974
Jena, LA
Member since Dec 2020
54 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:22 pm to
Best post of the day!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66827 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:22 pm to
If the source knows anything then you have to assume that means an offensive coach.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:23 pm to
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In what world could you have possibly believed this was a refutation of my point? I said Alabama puts terrible QB's in the NFL. It doesn't matter where they get drafted. If you're good, you're going to get drafted, and there are lots of schools that put out more QB's, or at least as many, simply as draft picks, than Alabama, and some of them ACTUALLY don't suck when they get there. Imagine that? The point is that if you want a springboard to a successful NFL career as a QB, Alabama isn't the place to go.
surely you're not that dense.

There are MANY factors regarding NFL success, a huge one being the team that drafts them, their offensive scheme, and the quality of the O line.

Whether a player succeeds in the NFL is not tied to the college they went to. Now sure, a very good college OC can help with QB mechanics and understanding and reading defenses, but those are college defenses, which are pretty simple.

The NFL is an entirely different game. Much as the jump from high school to college is an entirely different game, and whether a QB succeeds in college isn't based on the high school he attended.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59301 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:26 pm to
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Alabama wins games. They do not develop NFL caliber QB's. History proves that point emphatically. You haven't a clue what you're talking about.



Your take on this is retarded. They have 3 NFL starters at QB. Out of 32. And 2 are 2md year players and 1 is a rookie. I don’t think Tua’s great and it’s too early to tell about Hurts, but Jones is super polished and going to be very good when they build the pieces around him. Saban figured out you had to have a dynamic offense to win and pivoted several years ago. Gone are the McElroy, McCarron, Coker days. They are developing NFL QBs better than anybody right now. That said, I think Texas is very much in play.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11036 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:38 pm to
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They're also saying "LSU never lands top QB's"

LSU currently has the #1 QB in the country committed.

Doesn't mean Jack Shite if LSU (And whomever the new HC/OL Coach are) they don't initiate a significant upgrade to the standards in the recruiting of Offensive Linemen. (Most on here know this is true)

Go where you have to go to get em.

Go to freaking Canada if necessary, a la Dyakowski.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18306 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:38 pm to
Pay Dabo $2 Million a year more than Saban with a 10 year locked down contract.
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