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re: Do Americans Know What a Massive Ripoff American Life Really Is?

Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4494 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
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This may be the wrong winter to espouse how good the European utility companies are. Europe is facing an energy disaster this winter.


Unfortunately if you read Bloomberg.. the headlines over the last few days are suggesting that U.S. may experience the same energy crisis. Shame considering that we were energy independent just 1 year ago..
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90191 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
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They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124698 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
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How much does it cost to just…have a place to live? The average American rental is about $1200. That’s for an apartment. Again, that’s a particularly high figure. It doesn’t cost that much to rent in Europe. In France, the the average house rental costs less than that — it’s about 800 euros, or maybe $1000 dollars.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124698 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:37 pm to
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My take is that guy is being extremely disingenuous.
Put more succinctly, he's a total fricking liar!
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1863 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:39 pm to
You know what’s gotten really expensive?



Columbian hookers.


Very expensive these days.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:50 pm to
The minute I get a $500 utility bill I'll take a nice long look at Europe, I promise.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:09 pm to
Then go live somewhere else ya cuck.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30530 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:19 pm to
I bet every single one of his "solutions"* involves governmental action.




* to problems that don't exist
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3022 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:27 pm to
He has a point about internet though. The internet I had in Japan was half the price and just as fast as my LUS fiber internet and 2× the speed of the Comcast I had in Texas.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40224 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:36 pm to
Dude, You are full of shite! My daughter lives in England. She and her husband are PhDs, and with two incomes and two kids, they don’t live anywhere near as well as my other kids who live in the States. Puny house in Nottingham that is actually half of a double. I’m guessing it is 1400 square feet.

I’ve rented Air B&Bs all over Europe, and it’s very difficult to find anything close to a basic middle class American home.

As PJ O’Rourke once wrote, “We live better, walk taller and frick longer than any of you needle-dick foreigners. When we snort Coke in Houston people lose their hats in Caps D’Antibes. And our bank accounts are bigger than your piss-arse metric numbers go!

I paraphrase, of course.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
17069 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:41 pm to
He’s not wrong….we paid 3200$ a month once for a 2 BR apt in Arlington, va…. 2300 for 700 sqft apt in downtown dc for 2 years.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:42 pm to
Go back where you came from Asshat
Posted by Brass Ring
Member since Sep 2021
50 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:43 pm to
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I’ve recently moved to the States

Go back home, you foreign POS.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7477 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:07 pm to
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Now let's talk about how much most Europeans pay in taxes for all of their "free" stuff like universal healthcare.


I despise this talking point. If you take into account what we pay for income taxes, medical insurance, sales tax, property tax, child care, take into account the difficulty of maternity or paternity leave, etc., and compare all of that to what extra Euros pay in taxes, we come out WWWAAAYYY behind.

This is also why we consistently fall behind many Western European nations in the OECD Happiness Index.

OECD Better Life Index
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7477 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Shame considering that we were energy independent just 1 year ago..


We became energy independent, and became a net exporter of oil, under Obama.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7477 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:16 pm to
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America has basically become an oligarch at this point, you have the corporations and ultra rich buying lobbyists and politicians through backroom deals, donations, among other tactics. The media also has become the biggest cheerleader for the new oligarchs, watch anytime some bill is proposed that would vastly benefit the middle class and poor. We get the same old argument, "Oh how can we afford this or oh this is socialism", you never hear this when massive bailouts are proposed or we invade a new country of course not.

Speaking of "socialism" let's talk about some actual socialism. Why is it that if people want everyone to have access to proper healthcare there's always this ridiculous take about how we'd basically be Venezuela or Cuba. But, when we spend trillions on wars Americans don't want or we use tax payer money to bail out companies that were doing shady shite that's not socialism at all when it's quite literally socialism for the rich.

And the media does this great little trick too, to distract Americans from all this shady shite. Get your average voter worked up about random bullshite like statues or mean tweets meanwhile the oligarchy just keeps on chugging along


TL:DR America is currently and has been run by an very wealthy few who love bailing each other out and using taxpayer money for their own interests and have used the media to distract the average American into thinking their fellow Americans are the true enemy because they vote dfferently


Enlightened take. People should read this.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4494 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:20 pm to
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We became energy independent, and became a net exporter of oil, under Obama.


So.. doesn't matter when we became independent.. We lost that in the last 9 months when we did not need to.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7477 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 7:39 pm to
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We lost that in the last 9 months when we did not need to.


Some rando on TD states we are facing an energy "crisis" this winter and, without doing any research whatsoever, you come here and not only echo the "fact" have we lost our energy independence but also jump to the conclusion that if it actually occurred, it only occurred in the last 9 months under a POTUS you don't like.

frick outta here, baw. C'mon. Be better.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4494 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:40 am to
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Some rando on TD states we are facing an energy "crisis" this winter and, without doing any research whatsoever, you come here and not only echo the "fact" have we lost our energy independence but also jump to the conclusion that if it actually occurred, it only occurred in the last 9 months under a POTUS you don't like.

frick outta here, baw. C'mon. Be better.


I said that if you look at Bloomberg.. in my first post.. you can see 3-4 articles stating that it could happen here in U.S. That is all that I said.. That we are no longer energy independent is also a fact.. Just pointing that out..


Bloomberg article
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:45 am
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