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re: LaTech Coach files suit: alleged bullying of his child at school in Ruston, La
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:02 pm to Blueblood
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:02 pm to Blueblood
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Since when is tigerdroppings a hillbilly or redneck forum? Lsu is more elite than that, right?
Well the OT doesn’t come across as hillbilly overall, more dignified to a degree. Other forums on here not so much. Money Talk is far from redneck
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:04 pm to kisatchie53
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I don’t believe rape happened, and I pray that I’m right.
I hope and pray that you are right, too. It’s hard to fathom the lasting trauma that would result from rape. The bullying is bad enough, but rape makes it far, far worse. I really do hope you are right—for the kid’s sake.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:04 pm to CoastLSUFan
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Keep in mind that to meet the definition of rape, it need not be proven that the entire length of an object was inserted. Any unwanted penetration, no matter how minor, can be considered rape. If, for example, the smallest part of the water bottle was used and went in, that could be considered rape. An incident like that would not likely cause physical damage nor the need for medical treatment.
Ok see I wasn’t aware of that. I also missed all that about a water bottle. Again it will fall in the middle like usual I still think, between bullying and rape, and that will be sexual assault. Question is if there were any coverups
It falling on sexual assault doesn’t mean there was sexual assault and doesn’t mean there wasn’t, I just think even if the kids meant to just horseplay or be mean, it’s still gonna go down as SA in court
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:10 pm to kisatchie53
Have a look at the big protest today, maybe 2-3 at Lowe’s and 1-2 at courthouse.
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:12 pm to kisatchie53
From an outsider standpoint, I don't blame the teacher for seeing the video and not being alarmed. It was just a few seconds of what appeared to be horseplay. The video went by fast and I doubt the teacher or the students were paying that much attention to it.
If I were a juror, however, that video would be proof that bullying did happen and the kid probably was sexually assaulted. He was Obviously resisting and being held against his will and it does look like they were trying to shove it up his butt through his pants and missed. I think it legitimizes the original complaint. The school was really stupid for releasing this. I don't think it helped their case at all.
If I were a juror, however, that video would be proof that bullying did happen and the kid probably was sexually assaulted. He was Obviously resisting and being held against his will and it does look like they were trying to shove it up his butt through his pants and missed. I think it legitimizes the original complaint. The school was really stupid for releasing this. I don't think it helped their case at all.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:13 pm to kisatchie53
As an outsider ( and therefore part of the problem disrupting this Lincoln Parish Paradise), please allow me some observations:
1. This has been going on a while. The hyperbole, outrage and indignation still appearing here and elsewhere about this dispute ( both sides) is beyond ridiculous and suggests instability or unhealthy relationships throughout the community. Pls get a grip.
2. the defense of “it was only bullying” is not very flattering.
3. The sexual assault allegations seem improbable, but are serious. See where the evidence goes. If the allegations are irresponsible, fine call out those who were excessive in making them.
4. Both sides make the community look bad and dysfunctional and underscore Ruston’s reputation as gossipy, judgmental and hateful.
5.you May now proceed to downvote and castigate me, b/c I, too am an outsider and no doubt have improper motives. That would be the Ruston Way.
1. This has been going on a while. The hyperbole, outrage and indignation still appearing here and elsewhere about this dispute ( both sides) is beyond ridiculous and suggests instability or unhealthy relationships throughout the community. Pls get a grip.
2. the defense of “it was only bullying” is not very flattering.
3. The sexual assault allegations seem improbable, but are serious. See where the evidence goes. If the allegations are irresponsible, fine call out those who were excessive in making them.
4. Both sides make the community look bad and dysfunctional and underscore Ruston’s reputation as gossipy, judgmental and hateful.
5.you May now proceed to downvote and castigate me, b/c I, too am an outsider and no doubt have improper motives. That would be the Ruston Way.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:43 pm to pwejr88
quote:no it isn’t. That’s why we keep questioning the accusations and the severity of the the consequences that come with such. Of the kid was “really penetrated” with such objects multiple times. There would be other witnesses and physical evidence.
People keep saying this but the court documents say “anal penetration.” It isn’t remotely the same.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:11 pm to nitwit
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As an outsider ( and therefore part of the problem disrupting this Lincoln Parish Paradise), please allow me some observations:
1. This has been going on a while. The hyperbole, outrage and indignation still appearing here and elsewhere about this dispute ( both sides) is beyond ridiculous and suggests instability or unhealthy relationships throughout the community. Pls get a grip.
Just to be clear, I'm an outsider, I don't or have never lived in Lincoln parish. In reality, my wife's friends aren't originally from there either. They've been living there probably 10-12 years. I don't disagree with what you said
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the defense of “it was only bullying” is not very flattering
It's not, but bullying is less bad than rape, and that's what CC is clinging to.
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The sexual assault allegations seem improbable, but are serious. See where the evidence goes. If the allegations are irresponsible, fine call out those who were excessive in making them
I actually think there will be sexual assault verdict.
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Both sides make the community look bad and dysfunctional and underscore Ruston’s reputation as gossipy, judgmental and hateful.
Absolutely
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5.you May now proceed to downvote and castigate me, b/c I, too am an outsider and no doubt have improper motives. That would be the Ruston Way.
I'm not gonna downvote I do want to be clear, I assume since you were replying to me you are referring to comment I made about wife's friend. I don't think they are against "outsiders" I think outsiders there try to constantly stir the pot. There was an incident they told us where someone who has never lived in Ruston joined saying a business owner called her the N word. People were asking questions, only to find out business owner died 2-3 years prior. Someone actually posted the picture of him and she stated yes that's him. She quickly deleted the topic. According to our friends, stuff like that goes on pretty often. And it's usually by out of state people or folks who just moved there.
I have gotten invested in this because of the seriousness of the accusations and also knowing people who can get information, whether correct or not I'm unsure. Also, it turned into a train wreck and it's hard to look away.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:47 pm to kisatchie53
I think you’ve been pretty even handed.
And although I’ve been critical of the cancerous culture of the Ruston community, there are a whole bunch of terrific people who live there. The place has so much potential to be a great place to live.
Maybe this event will cause some introspection and possibly some change.
And although I’ve been critical of the cancerous culture of the Ruston community, there are a whole bunch of terrific people who live there. The place has so much potential to be a great place to live.
Maybe this event will cause some introspection and possibly some change.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:14 pm to jchamil
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I don't think it's unrealistic that a kid that age would be ashamed to tell anyone
You realize these kids were in the 9th grade when this happened right ? Half of them were driving already
I have a 14 yr old son who would fight the first person who tried to stick anything up his arse.
If not he would for sure tell his dad who he knows has his back
"Do you have kids at CC or something?" I'm not defending CC even though I've had family members go there recently and know the school well.
Another question is - Why is there no criminal charges in this ? If all of these assaults took place why haven't these 14, 15 yr old kids been charged or arrested ?
Ruston is full of bitter/petty people who sit around talking about each other while acting like they are all best friends at church, but then when something happens like this they all pounce and get the pitch forks out.
Personally I don't really care what becomes of this I just think the facts don't make any sense.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:04 pm to The Torch
I would not scrutinize the amount of penetration or the amount of times. Just one instance of a gang of peers holding a young adult child down at school and even attempting to ram a bottle or figurine, successful or not, anywhere close to his privates in attempt to humiliate him, would be enough for me to favor plaintiff. Over the clothes ramming of a figurine of any frequency or degree or even just holding him down to humiliate him would convince me that punishment is warranted. Baseline acceptable punishment...they should be banned from playing sports wherever they attend school. Can't participate in fun things when you've humiliated someone else just trying to make it through, potentially causing suicidal thoughts in the victim. They should all settle this case.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:06 pm to Breadcrumbs
How old are you? Just curious.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:09 pm to tiger2180
old enough to have a son. what's your point?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:12 pm to Breadcrumbs
No point. Just curious on the ages of some of the responses.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:19 pm to nitwit
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I think you’ve been pretty even handed.
And although I’ve been critical of the cancerous culture of the Ruston community, there are a whole bunch of terrific people who live there. The place has so much potential to be a great place to live.
Maybe this event will cause some introspection and possibly some change.
It already is a great place to live. I'm hard pressed to think of a better place in Louisiana by most metrics. Quality of life is comparable or better than the Northshore, without the traffic and flooding. Ruston does have a reputation for being insular and gossipy, but what place isn't. The Cedar Creek situation could have happened anywhere and does.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:22 pm to tiger2180
I guess the argument is how young is too young to experience the consequences of the chosen behavior. Jail might be too harsh. They should thank their lucky stars this kid didn't commit suicide. But a ban from playing school sports is not unwarranted consequences in the least for this bullying behavior. Perhaps they should be homeschooled and away from other students until college.
The adults that knew about this and simply warned the perps should lose their jobs. They are not qualified as teachers and should not be in a school if they cannot protect students.
The adults that knew about this and simply warned the perps should lose their jobs. They are not qualified as teachers and should not be in a school if they cannot protect students.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:28 pm to Breadcrumbs
Why do you assume adults knew about it. Hell I saw kids bullied in jr. high and high school in the 80’s. Most of the time it occurred when no adults were present. Every boy in my 6th grade class was called to the principals office for picking on (bullying) a kid. Kids are mean always have been always will be, I’d bet almost all kids that attend school public & private have been bullied at some point.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:32 pm to tiger2180
quote:Because it is alleged that one of the coaches told Paul's mom the day after Paul's Hell Day that he warned his son (one of the alleged perps) that they should ease up on Paul or something to that effect.
Why do you assume adults new about it.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:35 pm to Breadcrumbs
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Can't participate in fun things when you've humiliated someone else just trying to make it through, potentially causing suicidal thoughts in the victim.
Did it say somewhere the kid was thinking about suicide? Maybe I missed it
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:37 pm to Breadcrumbs
So an adult made an effort to stop the bullying? Kids ignored the warning? Not surprised.
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