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re: Why is it hard to attract elite coaches at LSU?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:15 pm to JamesMaskin
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:15 pm to JamesMaskin
LMAO Do what!?
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Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:15 pm to doubleb
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To his credit Mark Emert took over and ran the hiring process, we got Nick Saban.
Was Saban considered elite when he was hired?
Based upon what?
His head coaching record was 43-26-1 and had got beat by DiNardo in the Independence Bowl.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:15 pm to Gus007
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Then we let him get away.
He took the Dolphins job because he thought he could make it in the NFL. Nothing was going to keep him here once he made that decision.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:17 pm to DIGGY
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Attracting them has not been the problem.
Bingo!
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:18 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
To counter the points of miles or O being elite by using a simple litmus test.
Who would hire them if they were fired or stepped down?
Miles wanted to coach and couldn’t find another coaching opportunity for a good while before Kansas.
Coach O’s story is full of an interim who couldn’t get a HC job, prior to LSU. And if we fire him, I’m pretty confident he will follow same pattern as miles.
If Urban Meyer steps down from Jaguars every team in the nation across the board would fire their coach to have him besides maybe 3-5 schools.
Alabama somehow has had 2 of these transcendent coaches In it’s history , which isn’t a coincidence it’s something to do with what goes on behind the scenes
Who would hire them if they were fired or stepped down?
Miles wanted to coach and couldn’t find another coaching opportunity for a good while before Kansas.
Coach O’s story is full of an interim who couldn’t get a HC job, prior to LSU. And if we fire him, I’m pretty confident he will follow same pattern as miles.
If Urban Meyer steps down from Jaguars every team in the nation across the board would fire their coach to have him besides maybe 3-5 schools.
Alabama somehow has had 2 of these transcendent coaches In it’s history , which isn’t a coincidence it’s something to do with what goes on behind the scenes
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:21 pm to JamesMaskin
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firing O 2 years removed from the best season in program history
If you were a coach would you want to come into the SEC west with Bama as an opponent and have 2-3 yrs maybe to win? LSU fans are the problem. We pay as well as other top schools so it isn't pay.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:22 pm to JamesMaskin
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Alabama somehow has had 2 of these transcendent coaches In it’s history
With 25 years of mediocrity in between
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:23 pm to JamesMaskin
I don't think LSU is a top 5 job, top 10 maybe. Coach hiring is not that different from buying a house which is decided by demand and supply. There are lot of coaches there but only a few hot names available each year, and you need to look at who else are looking for coaches. You can either have the vision to identify an up and coming coach that is under the radar or go to a bidding war with the big players. Alleva had the whole year to figure out a deal but didn't do so.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:23 pm to JamesMaskin
It wasn’t originally. It’s now populated with bozos that believe they have tremendous insight.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:24 pm to JamesMaskin
I think with an AD like Woodward, we will have a much better opportunity to hire an elite coach or a younger up and comer.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:24 pm to JamesMaskin
1. Louisiana politics
2. LSU fans with ridiculous expectations and quick with fire this person or that person, just like what is happening right now.
2. LSU fans with ridiculous expectations and quick with fire this person or that person, just like what is happening right now.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:24 pm to JamesMaskin
You do know Nick Satan was our coach at 1 time and lesticles was like 52 and 7 or something at 1 time.one of the most winning teams from 2002 to 2020
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:25 pm to Gray Tiger
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Was Saban considered elite when he was hired?
No. He was a 49 year old journeyman and his only signature win was beating number one Ohio State in 1998.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:26 pm to JamesMaskin
O
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:28 pm to JamesMaskin
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Alabama somehow has had 2 of these transcendent coaches In it’s history , which isn’t a coincidence
It is 100% a coincidence
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:30 pm to wesman21
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LSU fans with ridiculous expectations
Great coaches have even higher expectations. They idea that would scare off a coach is ridiculous and delusional. They want to be at a place with expectations.
This post was edited on 9/8/21 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:31 pm to JamesMaskin
quote:to be fair, I don’t know how extensive that search actually was. It appeared more that Alleva targeted a single hot name (Herman), was scorned, and immediately went to Orgeron as a fall back instead of expanding the search.
When LSU fired Les Miles, it was shocking to me of how hard it was to attract quality candidates?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:31 pm to JamesMaskin
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Why is it hard to attract elite coaches at LSU?
It's not. You're basing this on the incompetence of Joe Alleva, after not snagging Herman nor Jimbo, throwing his hands up and hitting the easy button.
Miles was definitely an elite coach at a time at LSU after being an up and comer at Okie Lite.
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:34 pm to JamesMaskin
Did the Dolphins lure Saban away or did the fan base push him away?
Posted on 9/8/21 at 4:35 pm to tigerpawl
That anyone would argue LSU fans pushed Saban away is absolutely mind boggling 
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