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re: Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed

Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Not if you are trying to increase the spread. Which they are.


Geez....
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:18 pm to
So the takeaway is that a legit study is concluding that the vaccinated who say "I did this to save you!" are misled into thinking that they are safe to be around, but instead may be a potential danger to the unvaccinated. Is that right?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Does not change the fact that the vaccinated, WHO ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TEST, are walking around spreading it.



It is a reward for getting vaccinated. Also 250x higher than the original covid is a 75% reduction in viral load since unvaccinated people have 1000x higher than the original covid viral load. The unvaccinated are required to be tested because they are 4x more likely to infect others than the vaccinated.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40886 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed




Vaxxtards on suicide watch!
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120774 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:22 pm to
Where is the link to the study?

Your link is to an antivacc site blaming vacc’s for autism
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 1:35 pm
Posted by meauxses
Member since Nov 2012
2704 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:23 pm to
It took five minutes to read the publication and discover that OP is full of shite.

This why people don't take you guys seriously.
Posted by meauxses
Member since Nov 2012
2704 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:25 pm to
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So the takeaway is that a legit study is concluding that the vaccinated who say "I did this to save you!" are misled into thinking that they are safe to be around, but instead may be a potential danger to the unvaccinated. Is that right?


That's what "Children's Health Defense" wants you to conclude. They want you to conclude that all vaccines are unsafe and ineffective. They're an anti-vax outfit.
Posted by CarlTech
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
413 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:25 pm to
D500MAG

Typically the vaccinated people wear a mask too.

It seems that you are for free dumb and not pro life.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:26 pm to
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It is a reward for getting vaccinated. Also 250x higher than the original covid is a 75% reduction in viral load since unvaccinated people have 1000x higher than the original covid viral load. The unvaccinated are required to be tested because they are 4x more likely to infect others than the vaccinated.



Ok, so......
Superdome about 75,000 seats?

50% unvaccinated negative tests
50% vaccinated no tests

What's gonna happen? Engineered spread of virus?
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
5585 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:27 pm to
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Comparing breakthrough delta cases to the original covid-19 strain is a bad comparison since individuals with delta (vaccinated and unvaccinated) have 1000x higher viral load than individuals infected with the original virus.

This may suggest that broad indiscriminate vaccinating into an ongoing pandemic is unwise, possibly dangerous and might provide an opportunity to the virus’s adaptive mechanisms to spin out vaccine resistant variants.
LINK
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It’s not that new variants of Covid-19 virus come into existence due to vaccination. It’s that those mutated variants resistant to the vaccine are favored. The resistant viruses are still able to infect the vaccinated human host and, thus, spread more prolifically through viral shedding.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:30 pm to
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The idea is to misrepresent a medical study to people without technical medical knowledge to stoke their fear about vaccine when the study isn't even comparing vaxxed and unvaxxed.

In addition to this, let's just pretend what the OP thought he was representing was true and follow the logic trail...

For the past year nonstop, this place has stated we can't avoid, we're all going to catch it at some point, and we need to just open it back up, and let the chips fall where they may so we get to herd immunity as quickly as possible. Not to mention, that COVID isn't a big deal, 99.9% survival rate, etc.

Given that logic, shouldn't this "news" plus getting vaccinated be the absolute safest and quickest way to get to herd immunity? Or...are we moving the goalposts now?

Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6907 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:32 pm to
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It’s a gamble...


That's what happens when a BIOLOGICAL weapon attacks people with a certain genetic makeup. We can stop calling it a VIRUS whenever you want.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5071 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Those who got vaccinated are sick in the head. They don’t care, unfortunately.

Most are just poorly informed, or too trusting of authority. Others are very knowledgeable, but limit their knowledge to certain sources (the medical version of ABCCBSNBC/GWPBAD syndrome). There are many well-educated medical and science people that say caution is advised due to initial bad reactions and potential future problems. There are many well-educated medical and science people that say that no caution is needed. A wise person would sit this out for a while.

Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2326 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:33 pm to
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I wonder if twitter will now block posts from one of the finest universities in the world.



LOL. The Oxford University Clinical Research Unit is a Vietnamese organization. I'm not sure what its international reputation is, but it is not associated with the University of Oxford.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:36 pm to
It went through the Oxford IRB so I assume they're affiliated with Oxford. It was also published in the Lancet, so it's a top 5 medical journal.

But, all that notwithstanding, it doesn't say what OP claims it does.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120774 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:36 pm to
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They're an anti-vax outfit.


Yep. This is a jenny Mccarthy site and its getting tons of upvotes on here

Board is lost
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120774 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:37 pm to
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But, all that notwithstanding, it doesn't say what OP claims it does.


It simply says symptomatic vaxxed can spread just as easily as symptomatic unvaxxed

I dont see the 251x part
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18998 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:37 pm to
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LOL. The Oxford University Clinical Research Unit is a Vietnamese organization. I'm not sure what its international reputation is, but it is not associated with the University of Oxford.


bwah. My mistake.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18311 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 1:39 pm to
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he unvaccinated are required to be tested because they are 4x more likely to infect others than the vaccinated.

Unvaccinated, including those with natural immunity?
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