re: Wait til the world learns the vaxxed are the dangerous ones: 251x viral load as unvaxxed

Don't tell this to the tiger rant. They are in there patting each other on their backs and celebrating their "victory" of having jabs forced on them to watch a game. They can't stop high fiving long enough to listen to reason. It's nauseating.

Edit- oh look, the rant followed me in here to downvote because I hurt their feelings.

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Also 250x higher than the original covid is a 75% reduction in viral load since unvaccinated people have 1000x higher than the original covid viral load. The unvaccinated are required to be tested because they are 4x more likely to infect others than the vaccinated.

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Scary that you think this is a winning argument.

The original virus has record deaths associated with it. So in your feeble attempt to justify a vaccine you claim its better to have a lower viral count with more deaths, than a magnified viral count, even among the vaccinated? We didn't even overwhelm hospitals with the original virus, because people just died off. 500M of them!! Yet somehow that was less of a threat, due to less viral load, and whatnot?

I think the point the vaccinated are missing with this Oxford study is that vaccines are masking the dangers associated with further mutations. Even a smaller viral load of CoVID is deadlier than Delta. But we are suddenly glossing over the fact that the vaxxed are now carriers of these higher viral loads.

The next mutation could be a lower, deadlier viral load that infects the unconcerned vaccinated. But that's where we have made our final stand; acceptance of a vaccine that allows transmission, rather than therapeutics to ward off the deadly reactions of the body.

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We found viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases peaked around 2-3 days before and after the development of symptoms, and were 251 times higher than those of the infected cases detected during the early phase of the pandemic in 2020.

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As others have said previously in this thread, they're comparing viral load with alpha in 2020 with delta in 2021.

OP is FOS.

Ironically that Oxford preprint is actually pretty impressive data for vaccination.

This is how fake news spreads and a delusion grows

The Astra Zeneca vaccine lmao

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think the point the vaccinated are missing with this Oxford study is that vaccines are masking the dangers associated with further mutations. Even a smaller viral load of CoVID is deadlier than Delta. But we are suddenly glossing over the fact that the vaxxed are now carriers of these higher viral loads.

The next mutation could be a lower, deadlier viral load that infects the unconcerned vaccinated. But that's where we have made our final stand; acceptance of a vaccine that allows transmission, rather than therapeutics to ward off the deadly reactions of the body.

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Nail on head.

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serves to lull the vaccinated into sleep while waiting on another low load, more deadly variant like the original.

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Wow

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I think the point the vaccinated are missing with this Oxford study is that vaccines are masking the dangers associated with further mutations. Even a smaller viral load of CoVID is deadlier than Delta. But we are suddenly glossing over the fact that the vaxxed are now carriers of these higher viral loads.

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no one is glossing over the fact that delta variants today have higher viral loads than people who had alpha in march-april 2020. people are misunderstanding likely due to an incorrect propaganda spin on the data that this study's comparison was between delta 2021 and alpha 2020. vaccinated delta has lower load than unvaxxed delta. either type of delta is higher than alpha.


the virus is going to mutate whether vaccinated or unvaccinated, period. mutations happen as a result of replication which requires a host+infection. vaccines decrease the rate of infection. its simple math, vaccines decrease mutations by decreasing replication as more potential hosts are immune. you can maybe argue that vaccines 'guide' mutations but its complete nonsense to suggest that the vaccine is causing mutants more than unvaxxed.

Nobody followed you.

You're being downvoted because you assume this is a gotcha article for your viewpoint when in reality the article is completely misrepresenting the study it is linking.

Oh...shocker! You didn't actually read it!