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re: Biden supporters check in thread.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:22 am to The Shed
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:22 am to The Shed
Withdrawing was always going to be a shite show.
You can't analyze the withdrawal while ignoring the reasons we got into the conflict. It does a disservice to an incredibly complex issue.
I think withdrawing is a mistake and one that was always going to end up like this. The Afghan army was always going to fall (very few believed in the 'cause' because Afghanistan is a coalition of disparate tribes with very little in common) without US backing.
I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal with the Taliban and I blame Biden for honoring the withdrawal. The Afghan army wasn't even involved in the 2020 Doha Agreement for goodness sake.
I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal. Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place (and everyone conveniently ignores this). If we want to examine 20 years of foreign policy failure, you can't really ignore the administration that brokered a deal with the Taliban ;)
I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place. He gave in to political cowardice when anyone on the ground would tell you that the Afghan army has no loyalty to the cause or America.
You can't analyze the withdrawal while ignoring the reasons we got into the conflict. It does a disservice to an incredibly complex issue.
I think withdrawing is a mistake and one that was always going to end up like this. The Afghan army was always going to fall (very few believed in the 'cause' because Afghanistan is a coalition of disparate tribes with very little in common) without US backing.
I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal with the Taliban and I blame Biden for honoring the withdrawal. The Afghan army wasn't even involved in the 2020 Doha Agreement for goodness sake.
I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal. Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place (and everyone conveniently ignores this). If we want to examine 20 years of foreign policy failure, you can't really ignore the administration that brokered a deal with the Taliban ;)
I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place. He gave in to political cowardice when anyone on the ground would tell you that the Afghan army has no loyalty to the cause or America.
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:24 am to DangerousWafer
Lol. Biden ignored intel reports that this was going to happen. He did what you all screeched about trump doing for 4 years: ignored advisors.
Get some Mayo cause you’re eating this shite sandwich.
Get some Mayo cause you’re eating this shite sandwich.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:24 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal.
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I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place.
Wow…I don’t even
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:26 am to DangerousWafer
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I think withdrawing is a mistake and one that was always going to end up like this
This is wrong on so many levels. Biden botched this, period. We could’ve easily evacuated non military personnel slowly and steadily as to not cause panic, and then at the last minute pull out the troops. Seems like Biden did it the opposite way, pull out troops and let everyone panic as everyone who ever helped us on the ground slowly realized the Taliban was going to kill them and there was nowhere for them to go that quickly.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:26 am to DangerousWafer
You can spin it however you want. This is a disastrous withdrawal with no plan at all. Carter would have done a better job than this. This is an absolute disgrace.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:27 am to DangerousWafer
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Biden supporters check in thread.
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I blame Trump
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:27 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:29 am to DangerousWafer
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Withdrawing was always going to be a shite show.
Oh frick right off.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:31 am to DangerousWafer
Hey Moron! Trump has nothing to do with this. Joe could of offered continued air support to strike Taliban targets, but he went against advice of his generals. I’m still waiting for you lefties to explain Biden’s bungling of Benghazi too by the way
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:35 am to DangerousWafer
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I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place
Posted on 8/16/21 at 8:45 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal with the Taliban and I blame Biden for honoring the withdrawal. The Afghan army wasn't even involved in the 2020 Doha Agreement for goodness sake.
I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal. Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place (and everyone conveniently ignores this). If we want to examine 20 years of foreign policy failure, you can't really ignore the administration that brokered a deal with the Taliban ;)
Holy shite!
The utter failure in this!
Trying to Blame Trump on this is laughable! But let’s say this was Trumps plan…Biden had 8 months to make changes…he reversed the border policy in 1 day! To argue that this is on Trump and Biden’s hands were tied is beyond intellectual dishonesty. After 20yrs in AFG, Biden lost it over a weekend.
When DEMs talk about “low info voters” and laugh…know they are talking about you.
Gen Keen: “4 presidents have done good and bad in AFG, it’s an imperfect situation. But have no doubt, this is all on the Biden Admin. Pride, Stubbornness and self Righteousness as a Foreign policy maker of Biden, ignoring Military and Civilian intel lead to this.”
But hey, at least he’s at Camp David enjoying ice cream.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:01 am to DangerousWafer
no dumb frick you could plan the evacuation and had these people out weeks ago
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:05 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal
Of course you do. Except these guys have been doing "180s" recently . Reversing decisions on each others policies.
Trump got into office and started nixing Obama policies(Iran Treaty, Paris Climate, etc.)
Biden got into office and started nixing Trumps.
Biden should have done his own evaluation and made his own policy decisions on Afghanistan. In short, Biden owns this.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:40 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:20 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame every US president rather than one individual for this withdrawal. Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place (and everyone conveniently ignores this). If we want to examine 20 years of foreign policy failure, you can't really ignore the administration that brokered a deal with the Taliban ;)
I think Biden's biggest mistake isn't the withdrawal but the fact that we're withdrawing in the first place. He gave in to political cowardice when anyone on the ground would tell you that the Afghan army has no loyalty to the cause or America.
Trumps mistake was believing that if he lost re-election the next man up would have a set of balls
Please....
refrain from posting to avoid further embarrassment
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:00 am to DangerousWafer
This war was a huge waste of life, money, and time. It was a disaster. The fact that everything fell over within weeks is a testament to that. 20 years of propping up this government and training an "army" for nothing.
Afghanistan was a disaster. Never should've happened. Yes, pulling out was always going to be trouble. Shoulda done it ages ago.
Afghanistan was a disaster. Never should've happened. Yes, pulling out was always going to be trouble. Shoulda done it ages ago.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:05 am to DangerousWafer
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DangerousWafer
Only paid hacks are this stupid.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:26 am to DangerousWafer
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DangerousWafer
ok wafer...explain the handling of covid disaster and the border now that you have taken up for a geriatric who cant even speak for himself but has his wife do it for him in regards of this poor foreign policy...you cant admit that Trump had numerous peace treaties and was respected even by the scum Taliban...your guy is a joke and will go down as the worst possible president ever...
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:31 am to DangerousWafer
Trump brokered a deal to leave our personnel and assets unprotected? Show me where that deal was made. You leftists are insane.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:53 am to DangerousWafer
I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal
Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place
This is hilarious!!! In a matter of a week Biden eradicated every policy Trump had in place with a stroke of a pen. Hilarious, you think he had no way to alter that agreement and not withdraw at all or negotiate another one. I love the cherry picking from Biden C'mon man team. "We just couldn't do anything, we got dealt a bad deal" Give me a break. You totally mismanaged the whole thing you senile idiot.
Trump also had control for 4 years and was the one who brokered the deal to withdraw in the first place
This is hilarious!!! In a matter of a week Biden eradicated every policy Trump had in place with a stroke of a pen. Hilarious, you think he had no way to alter that agreement and not withdraw at all or negotiate another one. I love the cherry picking from Biden C'mon man team. "We just couldn't do anything, we got dealt a bad deal" Give me a break. You totally mismanaged the whole thing you senile idiot.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:03 am to DangerousWafer
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I blame Trump for negotiating a withdrawal with the Taliban and I blame Biden for honoring the withdrawal.
This is a lie. Biden changed the agreed upon date of the agreement, therefore breaking the agreement. After doing so, the Taliban were not obligated and decided that if you are going to change the agreement we are going to initiate other measures. We are seeing those measures now. Trump had negotiated a face saving agreement for the US but the Biden crew were not going to abide by it because it was Trumps agreement. They were not willing to give the Orange man a diplomatic victory.
Do you even know what was in Trumps agreement?
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