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re: Looking like the masterminds behind the Whitmer Kidnapping plot may have been FBI agents
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:12 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:12 am to Bunk Moreland
I regret I only have but one upvote to give.
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:12 am to Bunk Moreland
Back the blue
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:13 am to teke184
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If the FBI guys are the only ones taking “material steps” toward anything, how is there a conspiracy by the people who get busted?
There isn’t
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:13 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Yeah they infiltrated the group then took it down from inside.
If by infiltrated you mean became the majority of the group, sure.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:13 am to Damone
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With this information in mind, go back to every post-9/11 allegedly “thwarted” domestic terrorist attack involving one or two lone Muslim men
Exactly. This stuff predates Trump by over a decade. This is just authoritarian bullshite from dystopian stories.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:15 am to OldSouth
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They've moved past entrapment to just committing the crimes themselves when they can't talk anyone into doing it.
Isn't this how Ruby Ridge got started?
Taking a break from the cheeky metaphors to be serious for a bit.
The FBI has pissed away all credibility when they got caught editing emails to present as evidence to a FISA. To bolster their case, they tried using opposition research to obtain a wiretap warrant on a certain presidential candidate. Fisa courts are basically a rubber stamp factory, but they initially rejected that application because it was weaker than a paper umbrella.
So some FBI lawyers leaked a bullshite story about Trump, hookers, and a Russian Hotel to Yahoo News. Then in an astounding example of information laundering, they used the Yahoo article as an independent 3rd party source in another FISA application. This time thy got it.
Regardless of what you feel about Trump, this is an intolerable level of corruption. You can make jokes about their incompetence because they ignored tips on the Pulse Nightclub terrorist and the Parkland shooter (they did...both times). But completely violating a private citizen's civil rights for political reasons is something that should not happen in this country. And it's baked into their culture since at at least Martin Luther King era.
If someone other than Biden wins the 2024 election, the first thing they need to do is start dismantling and scaling back this organization. It needs to be refocused to investigating real threats to Americans instead of being a political tool. We need a credible, effective FBI. We don't have that.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:16 am to goofball
An informant is second in command?? So they are leading these yokels? That's not how this is supposed to work.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:17 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Yeah they infiltrated the group then took it down from inside. Pretty standard practice for the FBI
There are reports that indicate that the bulk of this "group" were actually undercover FBI informants....including the ones that actually planned the whole kidnapping plot.
So far only a few news outlets are reporting on this. But given the FBI's history, it wouldn't shock me if they completely overstepped on this.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:19 am to goofball
I saw a video the other day that the guy says “conspiracy theories might as well be called spoiler alrerts during this time.” Everyday it becomes truer lol.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:25 am to crazyLSUstudent
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Yeah they infiltrated the group then took it down from inside. Pretty standard practice for the FBI
They manufactured the event probably from step 1 for personal and government gain. Don't see how you can't have a problem with this.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:27 am to goofball
Thread title is purposely misleading by using agent instead of informant
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:27 am to goofball
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I seriously laughed at people that suggested that this was largely planned and orchestrated by the FBI.
Now it looks like they may have been right.
Starting to wonder what the FBI's role in the Jan 6 protests were.
Remember the Waco Twin Peaks shootout? Same thing. It’s was the feds. They infiltrated what had been for years a small MC called the Cossacks that had never caused trouble for anyone. The feds got their “informants” in key roles of influence and leadership in the Cossacks and immediately started stirring up fights with the Bandidos. I knew it made no sense for the Cossacks to start shite with the Bandidos. The Cossacks starting a war with the Bandidos is like Jamaica attacking and declaring war on the US or OweO picking a fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
That day in Waco the Cossacks rolled up to Twin Peaks and started blasting. The feds, state, and local cops were already staged all around Twin Peaks. They knew what was going to happen because they set it all up through their informants. And as has been provided since, most of the bikers killed that day died from 5.56 rounds. The only people who had 5.56 that day were cops. The whole thing was orchestrated by the feds to try to take down the Bandidos. The Cossacks were nothing more than patsies.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:29 am to Freauxzen
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They manufactured the event probably from step 1 for personal and government gain. Don't see how you can't have a problem with this.
A lot of people love brutal authoritarianism.
Always remember that Mao had millions and millions doing his bidding as he violently destroyed China during the Cultural Revolution.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:29 am to goofball
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:30 am to goofball
The FBI and CIA are the worst of the worst. So unbelievably corrupt.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:31 am to Antonio Moss
Whatever dude. Mao was a purely chinese thing. There's no way we could have struggle sessions in this country.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:34 am to Centinel
Our country needs to study history more
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:37 am to BowlJackson
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Thread title is purposely misleading by using agent instead of informant
They are no longer just an "informant" if they planned the damn thing.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:40 am to Centinel
What is that photograph from?
Why are those people bullying that person at the table?
Why are those people bullying that person at the table?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:40 am to member12
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Why are those people bullying that person at the table?
Because they are leftists
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 9:43 am
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