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re: Ever wondered how much $$$$ your friends and neighbors got in PPP loans? SBA Look here.

Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:43 am to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20646 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:43 am to
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2 companies I know received it aren't in the listing for Alabama, I'd assume they missed a whole bunch of others.


You may not know their LLC or business name their EIN is filed under. Tons of businesses have EIN's or work under umbrellas of something else.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:43 am to
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So let's just elevate to the 30k view to alleviate your bias for one school. The And? as you said is only a blind fool could not see that books were cooked and manipulated to squeeze out free money from the Gubment.
What books were cooked? Catholic easily has over 750k in monthly payroll, their PPP amount is in line

You don’t know your arse from a hole in the ground here. PPP was not based on need, it was based on your monthly payroll amount for the amount received, and it was about using it on payroll and other expenses
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 10:45 am
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54193 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:45 am to
Showing a need wasn’t a requirement for the loan or its forgiveness. Also, they were given at a time of great uncertainty, where the implications for many were up in the air.

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only a blind fool could not see that books were cooked and manipulated to squeeze out free money from the Gubment.
There is no doubt, but the average poster can’t determine that just because a particular business received a loan unless they are privy to payroll and other financial information.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63572 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:46 am to
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I can vouch that the list is not accurate, I received PPP loan and it is not listed.


My company was listed last time I looked and we did not receive any funds.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:46 am to
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I get it, you are an alum of Catholic or have a kid there. If you can't understand what I said then it's really no point in having this discussion.


Im not and understand what you are saying, it's just stupid.

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The And? as you said is only a blind fool could not see that books were cooked and manipulated to squeeze out free money from the Gubment.


Are you under the impression a private school pays all of its expenses and derives all of its revenue from tuition?
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6087 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:47 am to
It saved all my employees, as well as myself. I was about to lose them all. I even sold my f350 to cover payroll and then got the funds 2 days later. Sure wish I wouldn’t have sold it but hindsight is 20/20 and I was scared for them and their families.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20646 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:48 am to
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Showing a need wasn’t a requirement for the loan or its forgiveness


Not really the case at all. In fact, quite the opposite at the time of the initial applications. Many legit businesses that were doing well actually withdrew their applications because they were worried the government may come down on them with penalties if they couldn't show losses at the time.

Most of the fraud was not committed in the April, May, and June for the first and second round. Most of it was committed much after that when it appeared how much money and how easy it was to get, and that the government likely wasn't coming after most people.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
4857 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:48 am to
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PPP was not based on need, it was based on your monthly payroll amount for the amount received,


You are gaslighting. The monthly payroll amount had to factor in if a school like Catholic already had that nut covered by pre-paid tuition and things like that. But because it was a free-for-all due to uncertainty, there were many loopholes that could be exploited. Get your head out of your arse and stop being obtuse.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:48 am to
He is under the assumption like many are that PPP was only for companies that “needed it”

He is the same person that screams at Trump for “PAYING SO LITTLE IN TAXES!!!”
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:49 am to
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Are you under the impression a private school pays all of its expenses and derives all of its revenue from tuition?



That's excatly what's he's saying...he's an idiot


I assure you, Catholics bean counters crossed every t and dotted every i and worked closely with the bank to make sure they were falling within the guidelines that were changing almost daily...I didnt do shite...I let my CPA and banker fill in all the lines....I didnt want to mess up...all I had to do was prove them with some internal business info and list my expenses
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:49 am to
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You are gaslighting. The monthly payroll amount had to factor in if a school like Catholic already had that nut covered by pre-paid tuition and things like that. But because it was a free-for-all due to uncertainty, there were many loopholes that could be exploited. Get your head out of your arse and stop being obtuse.
Its not a loophole, it’s simply how the entire thing worked

Apply for amount based on payroll

Use amount for payroll and other expenses

Posted by cajunTiger22
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
371 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:50 am to
Baton Rouge Water Company took out 2-5 million... I still got and paid my bill
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:50 am to
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The monthly payroll amount had to factor in if a school like Catholic already had that nut covered by pre-paid tuition and things like that. But because it was a free-for-all due to uncertainty, there were many loopholes that could be exploited.



one more time.....you realize that tuition is not their only revenue stream?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:50 am to
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idiot


I assure you, Catholics bean counters crossed every t and dotted every i and worked closely with the bank to make sure they were falling within the guidelines that were changing almost daily...I didnt do shite...I let my CPA and banker fill in all the lines....I didnt want to mess up...all I had to do was prove them with some internal business info and list my expenses


Much like the oil spill, I helped MANY companies that made more money during covid than ever before, and they all applied for PPP like they should have
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27248 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:50 am to
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they were given at a time of great uncertainty, where the implications for many were up in the air.



This is a good point that needs to be repeated. No one knew what would happen. April 2020 was a shite show of uncertainty. Even if your business was not yet impacted at the time the first round came out, you had no way of knowing if it would be impacted in the future. The smart move for unaffected companies would be to preemptively take the money in case things went further south. I don't fault anyone for doing that.
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7050 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:51 am to
ver wondered how much $$$$ your friends and neighbors got in PPP loans? "

No. Never-not once.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96756 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:51 am to
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one more time.....you realize that tuition is not their only revenue stream?

Even if it was it doesn’t matter
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:51 am to
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The monthly payroll amount had to factor in if a school like Catholic already had that nut covered by pre-paid tuition and things like that.


If I were Catholic, I would be very very worried that my enrollment was going to drop 25% or more due to the pandemic causing a large drop in revenue.

And also explain what "things like that" are.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:51 am to
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Most of the fraud was not committed in the April, May, and June for the first and second round. Most of it was committed much after that when it appeared how much money and how easy it was to get, and that the government likely wasn't coming after most people.



The bigger problem with the first round was how the banks processed applications. I know of two people who applied with a large bank who drug their feet on their application, and by the time they got to their application, there were no more funds available. I have n doubt there were some shenanigans going on behind the scenes with some banks on how they prioritized applications.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 7/15/21 at 10:52 am to
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Even if it was it doesn’t matter



I understand that...but he keeps saying the same dumb shite over and over which just proves he doenst know what he's talking about
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