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re: What do high school AP classes do?

Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:20 pm to
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Currently, I understand that high school kids can earn college credit hours for AP classes, and if that had been the case in the mid-80s, I would have been in AP classes.



Just because your take the class doesn’t mean anything. It’s all about the AP test at the end of the year, graded 1-5. Generally a 3 or higher gets you out of at least something in that area of study.
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:20 pm to
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They keep your kid out of general population classes in public schools. Day and night environment difference.


One of my friends was the biggest class clown and he's a teacher at the school.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:22 pm to
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AP classes


It’s more work in HS but if you take the national exam you could get college credit.

But many schools have placement tests so some are not necessary. And you can be placed out of courses based on your ACT/SAT scores.

I personally don’t think they help one way or the other but parents like to brag.

(And yes I took AP courses in HS)
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:23 pm to
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I personally don’t think they help one way or the other but parents like to brag.


This is my feeling. Glad you are a humble man my AP baw.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:25 pm to
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Why not challenge all the same if we preach equality?



We’re not equal and we don’t preach equality of outcome. Everyone has access to AP classes at your school. Not everyone can take them.

If you’re naturally gifted in scholastic endeavors or you work your arse off you can advance to AP classes.

If you don’t apply yourself or you’re not capable of handling an AP class, which is not a bad thing sometimes it’s just because that’s not a path for you, simply throwing you in there wouldn’t help you, it would actually impede your learning due to stress and the inability to handle the load.

It’s like saying we can all lift weights so why don’t we all bench 500lbs. Some get there through base gifts and some get there through hard work but not everyone can just handle that amount of weight nor should they. But you can be healthy and in shape without advance weightlifting.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 2:28 pm
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18815 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:25 pm to
Well I clipped out of freshmen English, first semester of Spanish and Calc 1 at LSU because of AP classes. That is almost a whole semester of shite to take. I’d say it does good.
Posted by threeputtforbogie
Member since Sep 2017
836 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:27 pm to
At a minimum, they filter out kids who aren’t interested in those classes. So, you end up with a more focused group of kids and a better environment for teaching. However, the class will begin to focus on test prep versus pure teaching as you get closer to the test date. They’re a good thing but I don’t think they should be forced into the entire student body.
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:27 pm to
In public education they push AP for accountability. In my opinion, dual enrollment is more beneficial to students than AP.

I would think they are fixing to start pushing dual enrollment in public schools over AP because of the recent study that came out.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43755 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:28 pm to
It gives you the opportunity to earn college credit
For example if you take AP English or AP Histroy you could test out of some fr college courses you would ordinarily have to take. The exams you take at the end of school would determine whether or not you could earn college credit.
It allows you to skip the first english.

Plus your ACT and SAT scores, you can take exams summer before you enter college to test out of courses.
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
4403 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:30 pm to
They had a higher weighted GPA which allows you to get over the 4.0 scale. Also the classes prepared you for an AP exam you could take which would let you get college credit hours without paying for the course. I took AP history in high school and didn't have to take Western Civ in college. I knew some kids that were pretty much Sophomores before they even set foot on campus.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10677 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:30 pm to
I took everything AP my Junior and senior year. I never tried to test out if anything so I have no idea what they did. Hang with smarter kids I guess.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10721 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:31 pm to
An A in AP weighs more with your GPA
—that isn’t always the case. Every district and private school makes their own rules.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55462 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:32 pm to
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How do AP classes work vs regular when taught by the same teacher? A bit more challenging?

They aren't what they used to be, not by a long shot. When it is common policy to scale grades significantly, it doesn't have much merit in the long run. I know a person who was a senior in high school a few years ago. Her midterm, or whatever, report card was on the refrigerator. I looked and it had a 63 in Biology. I commented on it because I had heard how well she had been doing in school. She said, "Oh, that doesn't really matter, it will be scaled and I will have a B."

What the hell is the point if the classes are dumbed down to that extent?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:32 pm to
if you score high enough on the AP tests, they count as college credits and you don't have to take freshman level classes. You can skip ahead to 2nd semester or sophomore levels your freshman year. Some people need to take 11th & 12th grade math, english, and science. Some people can leap ahead into college classes while still in HS. Some don't get to be astronauts either; some people get to change my oil. Life.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
7700 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:33 pm to
Dual Enrollment >>> Advanced Placement
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10721 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:33 pm to
Some AP classes offer college credits. Some do not.
—-not true. The point of AP is to get college credit for passing the exam.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
48993 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:37 pm to
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If you make a 3 or above (5 is the highest score?),
Some require a 4.
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Source: I'm a loser nerd who was in all AP classes
My source is my smart kid. She had to have at least a 4 to get Chem 2 credit in college. That score should be in pretty soon. She will prob faint if she gets a 4 or 5.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56719 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:43 pm to
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curricula around the country are geared towards the middle-low tiers and smart kids are largely screwed

Especially now that many places are doing away with AP classes altogether.

Equity. We all have to suck or it won't be "equal."
Posted by bigcatfish
Member since Feb 2009
1282 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:52 pm to
Also, the college credit might not be accepted where you plan to attend college. One of my children to AP Human Geography and the colleges that accepted the credit were very limited. High schools really push that particular AP course because it is “easy” and it helps the schools SPS.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Member since Jan 2008
12268 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 2:52 pm to
Most high school aged kids are not able to comprehend college level material yet, let alone handle the increased workload and culminate that experience with a single exam designed to test your knowledge of that subject.

AP classes are, simply put, college courses.

The best, though, were those high school classes that could be accredited through a local college or university and count toward your college credits. I had college credits from UMSL and SLU that, when combined with my AP courses and my testing out at LSU, had me pegged as a sophomore before I even set foot in a real college classroom. I took two semesters of 17 hours worth of classes and the rest of my time there I did 12 or less hours and graduated in 3.5 years. With a minor.

So what do AP courses do? Aside from give the student a glimpse into what college level material and responsibilities will be, it gives the student the ability to leap frog in front of his or her peers as well as save thousands of dollars in tuition.
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