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re: Human Events: Battalion Commander Reportedly Tells Troops….
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:04 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:04 am to Wolfhound45
Dru sounds like he may be a closet homo.
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:21 am to LSUROXS
So a white Democratic jackass, must be Biden's nephew.........just like Zuckerdick and Dorksey.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:38 am to Wolfhound45
this post on the subject speaks volumes.. How the world sees us.
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Your country has reached the point of no return.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:18 am to Wolfhound45
@DruRho - twitter account is g.o.n.e., poof, vanished
My, my. How things do change in just a few days.
My, my. How things do change in just a few days.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:36 am to Wolfhound45
Wholly Gymcrack, glad I got out when I did.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:06 am to Wolfhound45
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Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Rhodes,
I'm betting he loves him some BBC.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:29 am to Wolfhound45
Just need to pray that we don't go to war with China or Russia after 10 years from now. Or, if we do go to war with one of them.. it's a drone war or some shite, because if it's a war that is soldier vs soldier... we gonna get our asses beat.
I think 10 years of heavy indoctrination into the woke ideology will be enough to destroy our military. Our military will be more focused on microaggressions and feelings.
I think 10 years of heavy indoctrination into the woke ideology will be enough to destroy our military. Our military will be more focused on microaggressions and feelings.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:30 am to Plx1776
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Just need to pray that we don't go to war with China or Russia after 10 years from now. Or, if we do go to war with one of them.. it's a drone war or some shite, because if it's a war that is soldier vs soldier... we gonna get our asses beat.
I think 10 years of heavy indoctrination into the woke ideology will be enough to destroy our military. Our military will be more focused on microaggressions and feelings.
EXACTLY what the left wants.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 3:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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There are only 2 of those, the CoS and the G3.
The G3 is the only non-CSL primary.
A Division Commander is NOT going to have his Chief of Staff or Chief Operating Officer tied up in an investigation. The investigation will come from III Corps
Definitely wouldn't be either of those two - talked to a buddy at 4ID though there are some floaters right now on Carson - between the PCS season, SFAB, 10th Group, guys waiting for command etc. Couple years ago at a previous assignment there was a COL in the G5 for six months waiting on his brigade command, he was 15-6 / CI central.
Either way I hope they crush this LTC and put a stop to some of this madness but I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 3:27 pm to Wolfhound45
He may have just put his name in the hat to be the next LSU president after the current “I hate whitey” guy moves on to “$greener$” pastures.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 3:32 pm to Wolfhound45
White people: stop fighting for this country. Do not die for a government that views you and yours as the cause of all evil.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 4:31 pm to TheOcean
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Likely commander's inquiry and he gets a slap on the wrist and told to stop it.
I agree with this. Commander's Inquiry only. No AR 15-6 informal investigation. Oral Counseling for the Officer. None of this behavior to be reflected on the LTC's OER. There will be no referred OER for this LTC. The LTC will continue in command.
Nobody in his chain of command will take the risk of doing anything more severe, for fear of harming their OWN military career.
He said that white people are a part of the problem, and now, he has erased his presence on social media.
I am inclined to believe that his Chain of Command considers this matter to be closed.
That's my 2 cents.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:27 am to Champagne
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I am inclined to believe that his Chain of Command considers this matter to be closed.
That won't stop someone from filing an IG complaint or a congressional.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 11:38 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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That won't stop someone from filing an IG complaint or a congressional.
Good point. AND if I remember correctly, either of those actions trigger a mandatory informal AR 15-6 investigation, required by the regulation.
So, yes indeed, because of that automatic trigger in the regulation, there could be an AR 15-6 informal investigation.
I'll stand by my guess that this Officer will remain in command and his OER will contain no adverse information arising out of this incident.
We'll see. I guess it depends on exactly what words and phrases he used. I don't think that saying "white people are a part of the problem" is enough to cause adverse action.
I'm speaking just as a neutral commentator. I am against any and all Leftist developments anytime anywhere.
Can you think of anything that would trigger a mandatory "Show Cause" board for this Officer?
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 11:42 am
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:08 pm to Wolfhound45
What’s his race?
Either he’s racist or a hypocrite.
Either he’s racist or a hypocrite.
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:40 pm to Champagne
Violations of AR 600-20 while disciplining others for the same?
The easiest way to remove him is a finding of "toxic climate".
The easiest way to remove him is a finding of "toxic climate".
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:31 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Violations of AR 600-20 while disciplining others for the same?
The easiest way to remove him is a finding of "toxic climate".
My starting point for the sake of this discussion is that his Chain of Command has no desire to either remove him from command or otherwise issue him an OER with any adverse information arising out of this incident. My starting point is that his chain of command wants to protect him and keep him in place, because that is my own guess WRT what they are thinking. It's just a guess.
If we begin this analysis from the Start Point that his Chain of Command wants to remove him from command, then, the analysis is different.
I'm not analyzing these two separate courses of action here, just the one.
How does his Chain of Command reach the desired End State, if somebody in this Officer's command generates an IG complaint or a Congressional?
In other words, if I am this Officer's commander and I told you "I've reviewed the facts and my decision is to take no action against this Officer. What do I need to do to make that happen, now that I've got this IG complaint and Congressional to deal with?".
I'm not trying to "grill" you, I'm just trying to get more insight WRT how this will play out. I think that this is the best "test case" that we're likely to get WRT guessing the trajectory of the US Army in 2021 and forward.
How do you help this commander make his intent a reality?
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 1:36 pm to Champagne
Every white male in that battalion should request a transfer.
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:26 pm to Champagne
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Champagne
You're missing the big picture. If a leader is perceived as toxic nowadays it not only undermines that unit, but the units 2-3 levels up and, in some cases, the entire post.
Think about is this way: What disruptive effects has this individual's stupidity caused? I'll name 2.
Let's assume you're a Captain in one of this Battalion's KD staff primary positions (Battalion S1, S2, S4 or S6)
You are senior rated by this individual.
Now let's assume that, aside from the Assistant S3, you are one of 5 Captains this person senior rates. Even with no other instances of perceived influence, there are only 2 of those 5 Captains that can get an MQ block check (formerly Above Center of Mass).
Now let's assume you are WHITE and did not get an MQ on your last OER despite being a top performer. Now you have a basis for appeal because of his comments.
Let's look at another aspect.
Assume you are the ACoS G6 for 4th ID. You are primarily responsible for talent management of Signal Officers at the Company Grade level. How do you reconcile putting a top performer who happens to be white as the S6 for 1-8 Infantry when there is a very real chance he would be set up for failure based off that Battalion Commander's comments?
The perception of toxic leadership with that individual now undermines 1-8 Infantry, 3rd Brigade, potentially 4th ID and Ft. Carson itself AND don't forget that El Paso County, where Ft. Carson is located, is a VERY conservative area. Representative Doug Lamborn (Republican) is the Representative of that district. How long do you think before his office is contacted?
This post was edited on 6/12/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 6/12/21 at 3:32 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Every white male in that battalion should request a transfer.
From an infantry battalion?
You’ll have a couple of squads left. Possibly one platoon with 5 black guys and 35 Hispanics, although they’re considered white if it serves the narrative.
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