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re: Milazzo cost us in both phases yesterday

Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:55 am to
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 5/27/21 at 8:55 am to
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Milazzo cost us in both phases yesterday

Poor guy basically has three balls in his cup, left ball, right ball, and bounced baseball.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5373 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:03 am to
You can’t blame milazzo.

It was assinine to have that hit and run on.
1. You’re moving to the closest base
2. You have a not fleet of foot runner on second
3. Milazzo is the least likely person in the lineup to make contact

That’s all on Paul
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:03 am to
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So maybe it was a hit and run?


Nah, you don’t & can’t call a hit & run with 2 strikes

Was just a straight steal he happened to swing at

Ideally he either makes contact or walks. Terrible call with milazzo up because he isn’t good at either of those results
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62059 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:10 am to
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Nah, you don’t & can’t call a hit & run with 2 strikes

Was just a straight steal he happened to swing at


A 3 ball hit and run

Paul is counting on Milazzo not striking out. He expects the batter to put any strike in play.

If the pitch is a ball the batter doesn’t have to swing and takes his ball 4 and there is no chance to throw the runner out because they move up on the walk (runners were on first and second).

Calculated risk by Mainieri. It failed miserably.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:33 am to
That’s not a hit & run. That is just a straight steal
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 9:34 am
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62059 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:36 am to
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That’s not a hit & run. That is just a straight steal


Not if it’s signaled in as a hit and run. The runner will make sure to not get picked off, then make his break. Notice how late of jump Morgan had, he was out by about two steps. He got a late break as if it was a hit and run. Not like earlier in the at bat when he had a straight steal and had a great jump.

A 3-2 hit and run is pretty common, not just with LSU. Start the runners to try and avoid the double play chance. But you have to have a batter you trust to put a strike in play.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 9:39 am
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11370 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:39 am to
ok cool...but he's been rock solid behind the plate all year and has changed games in our favor more times than not.....who is your solution genius??? You wanna throw Wyath back there??
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:47 am to
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ok cool...but he's been rock solid behind the plate all year and has changed games in our favor more times than not.....who is your solution genius??? You wanna throw Wyath back there??


That’s not the answer. The answer is to recruit better.

How many catchers have we signed or brought in over the last three recruiting classes and why is Milazzo our best option? That’s the question we should be asking.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:51 am to
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A 3-2 hit and run is pretty common, not just with LSU. Start the runners to try and avoid the double play chance. But you have to have a batter you trust to put a strike in play.



On a hit and run the batter swings no matter what to protect the runner and hopefully hit it where they ain’t.

On the play in question it’s just a case of the runners stealing. The batter should take if it’s a ball and swing if it’s a strike since the count is 3-2.

There’s no way that Milazzo should think he has to swing.
Posted by TTexas Tiger
BR
Member since Jan 2019
21 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:52 am to
What are you guys talking about, he's the perfect catcher. Isn't that what Maineri stated in an interview last year. If I remember correctly he stated that if he could make a perfect catcher he would be just like Milazzo. Obviously he's full of it.
Posted by 3rdPart Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
6239 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:52 am to
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why is Milazzo our best option?


Fairly certain the best option is out for the year.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:54 am to
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3-2 hit and run is pretty common, not just with LSU. Start the runners to try and avoid the double play chance. But you have to have a batter you trust to put a strike in play.


A batter with a 3-2 count is going to do that anyway.

You don’t have to signal him to swing at a strike or walk lol.


It was simply a steal where you have a bit of a safety net.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:54 am to
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Ideally he either makes contact or walks. Terrible call with milazzo up because he isn’t good at either of those results


Milazzo walks a lot and as a catcher he should have a great idea of where the strike zone is. He is a double play candidate so starting the runners on 3-2 with a fastball likely is not a bad play.
It just didn’t work in this instance, but it’s not a terrible call.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:59 am to
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Milazzo walks a lot and as a catcher he should have a great idea of where the strike zone is. He is a double play candidate so starting the runners on 3-2 with a fastball likely is not a bad play.


He has a 34% K%

And 11% BB

Hasn’t grounded into a DP all year

You tell me which is more likely
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 9:59 am to
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Fairly certain the best option is out for the year.



That option batted 148 (same as Milazzo) in SEC play and was a poor catcher. His OB% was 236 while Milazzo’s was 288. The option had more Ks per ABs than Milazzo did.

Overall the option had a better average, but that didn’t help in SEC play.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:00 am to
You need to know how many times has he struck out on a 3-2 count knowing a fastball was coming.

But you are correct, there is a risk involved and down three in the eighth risks aren’t the norm. Good point.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:13 am
Posted by scott8811
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
11370 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:19 am to
have you watched this season??? yes he's been awful at the plate, but what teams don't have at least 1 sub .200 hitter in the line-up because he provides something on defense. Look, I hate a lot about this team this year, but Milazzo has been an outstanding catcher
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278628 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:20 am to
I don’t feel like doing everyone’s numbers but I think he probably strikes out more than any player with regular ABs

I honestly don’t even trust him to hit a grooved fastball

He K’s every 3rd at bat, I just don’t love that call with the guy already ISP
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36156 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:27 am to
Thompson has a high K rate.

And I think you have me convinced now. It was too risky for that situation.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:29 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85091 posts
Posted on 5/27/21 at 10:31 am to
Calling a steal with a K guy at the plate who has two strikes is absolutely mismanagement. It goes against the percentages. It’s Paul taking unnecessary risks and going with a gut move instead of what makes sense.

We are learning that it’s easy to look good as a coach when you have really talented players who don’t need much development or coaching. It’s just as easy to look bad when you don’t have great players and you don’t know how to get the most out of them whether it be by developing them or making the correct moves before and during a game. Paul has failed miserably when he actually has to make decisions that are way more impactful because the players he’s toying with aren’t very good to start.
This post was edited on 5/27/21 at 10:32 am
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