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re: Justice Department indicts 3 men on federal hate crime charges in death of Ahmaud Arbery

Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by Fat and Happy
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:12 pm to
Other than the knee jerk title, hate crime doesn’t actually hold that tough of a penalty.

It’s not nothing but normal charges murder charges hold wayyyyyyy more weight
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:14 pm to
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My guess is because he wasn’t just a bystander. He was working with them to track down and detain him (if I recall correctly from the longer video that was released later).
so does that makes him am accessory to felony murder?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:14 pm to
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so does that makes him am accessory to felony murder?


If they can make the legal connection that he helped detain him so they could harm him, yes.
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:14 pm to
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so does that makes him am accessory to felony murder?



Possibly. That's what we have trials for.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:15 pm to
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Hate crimes are bullshite, but under the letter of the law, this one is easy.


What makes you say that? Did they say something racist or what?
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:16 pm to
That seems like the biggest reach in this case, but I'm not a lawyer.

Following the dude and assuming he was a criminal is one thing, but being equally responsible for the actions of the mcmichael frickwads is another.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:17 pm to
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What makes you say that? Did they say something racist or what?



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Questions about whether racism played a role in the killing sharpened during a previous hearing when an investigator testified that a third defendant, who took cellphone video of the shooting, told authorities he heard Travis McMichael, 34, utter a racial slur after he blasted Arbery three times with a shotgun.


Associated Press article on the case
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:17 pm to
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What makes you say that? Did they say something racist or what?



During the alleged murder? No, not to my recollection. However, previous statements made by the defendants can easily be construed as a pretext for "hate crime", which, given the climate, is going to make the tacked on charge pretty easy to argue.

ETA: BB making me look like a dumbass. Didn't realize that some of the language occurred during the incident.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:18 pm to
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so does that makes him am accessory to felony murder?


I checked with Jack McCoy... He said he was a co-conspirator so he can be held liable for the acts.
This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:18 pm to
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Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:19 pm to
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but the charges they’re going after are silly.


felony murder is the correct charge.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:20 pm to
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Travis McMichael, 34, utter a racial slur after he blasted Arbery three times with a shotgun


Bold strategy.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:24 pm to
You gonna delete all your posts again when you get called out for your clown show?
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/28/21 at 5:22 pm
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:26 pm to
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He was casing a house to steal property or was in the process of stealing property and was caught, started to run away, citizens tried to perform a citizen’s arrest (legal or not). Arbery refused to stop, kept running, rushed the guy with a gun and got shot.

Maybe you missed the recent news where he’s used his “out for a jog” excuse when he was trying to steal shite before.

The hate crime charges are a joke. You can argue whether or not there was any authority to chase after him, but the charges they’re going after are silly.



you are going to be severely disappointed by this trial. you believe AA was the aggressor, hilariously moronic perspective
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:27 pm to
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AA contributed to his own death


How? By fleeing when no crime had been clearly committed?
Posted by junkfunky
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:27 pm to
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AMS



Shut up, retard.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:27 pm to
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He was casing a house to steal property or was in the process of stealing property



And you know this how exactly?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:27 pm to
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severely disappointed by this trial.


I think if I'm them, after the Chauvin trial, I'd plead this motha out....
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