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re: Justice Department indicts 3 men on federal hate crime charges in death of Ahmaud Arbery

Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:59 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261492 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 4:59 pm to
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Please tell me you’re not arguing because he yelled directly after he shot him it’s not racist because he didn’t yell it during the blast?


Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:09 pm to
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Please tell me you’re not arguing because he yelled directly after he shot him it’s not racist because he didn’t yell it during the blast?



I’ve never seen anything other than second hand sources and “allegedly” that says he called him a racial slur. I’ll stand corrected if that’s entered as actual evidence.

I think that these guys deserve jail most likely and thought Chauvin was guilty (but definitely guilty of) manslaughter at most.

Bringing up an “alleged” comment or making all the riots about George Floyd’s race when it didn’t have anything to do with that just exacerbates the situation unjustly.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Something tells me you're a huge fan of the justice department and the FBI though.



probably your imagination tells you that.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:17 pm to
Anything he said does not matter.... these white guys took it upon themselves to basically hunt this kid down and filmed it...... and then shot him .... why?????? We’re they cops????
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5142 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:22 pm to
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Wasn’t there some tomfoolery with the DA as well for this one?


They apparently know defendants and looked like they weren't going to charge as I recall and then the video came out. Maybe I am not remembering correctly.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:23 pm to
One actually was.

I’m not defending them. Everything I know of the case would render a guilty verdict. Just saying they may have not set out to kill a black person when they left the house.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:24 pm to
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They apparently know defendants and looked like they weren't going to charge as I recall and then the video came out. Maybe I am not remembering correctly.



That’s correct. It was a few weeks and the media caught wind of it.
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
8592 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:25 pm to
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How is the dude who filmed it charged with murder too?

He’s white
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203356 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:26 pm to
Ok so what was their mission??????
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:27 pm to
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You gonna delete all your posts again when you get called out for your clown show?




its already happened
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6498 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:32 pm to
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If you examine this poster's history, I think labelling him as a progressive - which is what I assume you to mean - is not accurate whatsoeve


yea but if you ignore my post history and substitute an imaginary version then im clearly a blue haired ultra-commie
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15365 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:36 pm to
Unless some evidence comes out in trial that says contrary. I think this will be a fairly easy guilty verdict for murder.

I hope the former cop's buddies in the department and DA officewho helped sweep this thing under the rug get thoroughly investigated. They sat on this video for months. Nothing happened at all until the video got leaked to the public.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28996 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:38 pm to
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Ok so what was their mission??????



At best, to detain a guy robbing a construction site. At worst to threaten a guy that was they assumed was robbing a construction site and kill him.

An incongruent anecdote:

I live in a historic neighborhood. Lots of low income and lots of rich people mixed together. One of my neighbors is an elderly black lady with no car. She asks me for rides fairly regularly to less savory parts of town to see her friends and family.

I happily oblige, but I carry every single time. I am fully willing to use that to protect myself, but if a situation ever comes up where I have to use it, I know there would be questions about why I armed myself and if I was out looking for a confrontation.

Whether these guys left the house to kill AA or just question/confront him is beyond any of us, but they made a stupid split second decision to bring guns in a volatile situation and are left with the consequences of their stupidity, race motivated or not.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18321 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:45 pm to
I've argued from the beginning that these two (possibly three) bozos are done for. And I still believe that. But hate crime charges as a concept are dumb. I hope they get hit with the most severe charges, but screw this hate crime shite.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Whether these guys left the house to kill AA or just question/confront him is beyond any of us, but they made a stupid split second decision to bring guns in a volatile situation and are left with the consequences of their stupidity, race motivated or not.



I'm not sure what difference it really makes, but the fact that he used a shotgun suggests he wasn't carrying to defend himself. I don't carry a gun, but if I did it certainly wouldn't be a shotgun.

Of course, it's rural Georgia so he may just always have a shotgun in his car. Not sure why he'd have a loaded one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261492 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 5:52 pm to
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Unless some evidence comes out in trial that says contrary. I think this will be a fairly easy guilty verdict for murder.


I'm not gonna weep.
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:17 pm to
Wasn't he a criminal who grabbed their firearm as they attempted to restrain him?
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8628 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:20 pm to
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Wasn't he a criminal who grabbed their firearm as they attempted to restrain him?



Different guy...
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35553 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:26 pm to
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You gonna delete all your posts again when you get called out for your clown show?


Yep.


Gotta be intentionally trolling his takes on this case are so fricking bad.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57519 posts
Posted on 4/28/21 at 6:27 pm to
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Pirate King


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Not only are you an idiot, you are also a pussy
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